implied odds on the gutshot (out of position)?

[blockafor]

Dealt 53o in BB.
UTG+1, CO-1, button, and SB all limp.
I see the free flop and its: A72 rainbow. UTG+1 bets out, CO-1 folds, button calls, SB calls. My action?
With the rake, it's 7.8-1 to call now.

[Joe826]

You're 1 to 11 to make it on the turn. I personally would muck. I guess implied odds might make it worth while but I'm not calling. Anyone else chase this?

[sublime]

Fold

You need 10.75-1 to see the turn.

[sthief09]

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Dealt 53o in BB.
UTG+1, CO-1, button, and SB all limp.
I see the free flop and its: A72 rainbow. UTG+1 bets out, CO-1 folds, button calls, SB calls. My action?
With the rake, it's 7.8-1 to call now.



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- you're closing the action
- if you hit, you have great relative position to the bettor
- you only need to make up about 3 SB. you can EASILY do this
- you are drawing to the nuts
- if you hit, it's not likely anyone will have a decent redraw

I call and I don't think it's close

[sublime]

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- you're closing the action
- if you hit, you have great relative position to the bettor
- you only need to make up about 3 SB. you can EASILY do this
- you are drawing to the nuts
- if you hit, it's not likely anyone will have a decent redraw

I call and I don't think it's close

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I agree, I guess this depends on heros leval of skill. Me personally? I fold beacuse I try to keep my decisions based on immediate pot odds, it keeps me out of trouble.

[Spyder]

I don't think the implied odds are there.

The only caller you'll get is the bettor who (most likely) has a pair of Aces. Everyone else will fold when you bet or raise knowing you hit a straight. But, it IS one small bet and you ARE on the Button. If that A had been a T or lower, I'd feel better about calling because a small pair might win.

Spyder

[Styles]

IMHO, Peel 1.

As someone said you are now the button. Position is often relative. You are no longer "out of position".

If you hit and check-raise and the 2 caught in between both fold and the bettor calls you still have their 2 big turn bets. That's an additional 8 sbs for 1 sb now. Implied odds are +15:1 for the turn. If you think the bettor will fold to a check-raise that's still enough 13:1.

The table seems pretty passive, no flush draws out yet, they might even check the turn through and let you see a free river [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

OTOH you might hit and they check the turn through [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[t_petrosian]

Fold...period

[sthief09]

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I don't think the implied odds are there.

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if he has a pair of aces, then he'll pay off 2 BB, more likely 3 BB. all you need for implied odds are 1.5 BB.

[sthief09]

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I agree, I guess this depends on heros leval of skill. Me personally? I fold beacuse I try to keep my decisions based on immediate pot odds, it keeps me out of trouble.

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what does it have to do with level of skill? if you're capable of betting or check-raising the nuts, then you win money. it's not that difficult