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Old 06-24-2005, 10:34 AM
obisponator obisponator is offline
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Default PF \"SSHE Sheet\"

This might be against my better judgement, but I think it will be construstive considering the level of talent on this forum. My friend created a SSHE PF guidelines sheet to follow when playing, and i was wondering if you intelligent poker players could constructively criticize it and possibly find leaks... And now, onto the sheet:

Tight Games (3-5 avg. to flop)

Early Position (left 3 from BB)
No raise:
Play – AA-77, any two suited cards ten or higher, AK-AJ, KQ
Raise – AA-TT, AKs-AJs, AK-AQ
Against a raise:
Play – AA-TT, AKs-AJs, KQs, and AK
Reraise – AA-TT, AKs, and AK
Against a raise and reraise:
Play: AA-QQ, AKs
Raise: AA-QQ, AKs

Middle Position (3 left from EP)
No raise:
Play – Any pocket pair, AKs-A2s, KQs-K9s, QJs-Q9s, JTs,-J9s, T9s-98s, AK-AT, KQ-KJ
Raise – AA-99, AKs-ATs, KQs-KJs, AK-AJ, KQ
Against a raise:
Play – AA-TT, AKs-AJs, KQs, and AK
Reraise – AA-TT, AKs, and AK
Against a raise and reraise:
Play: AA-QQ, AKs
Raise: AA-QQ, AKs

Late Position (one off button and OTB)
No raise:
Play – Any pocket pair, AKs-A2s, KQs-K9s, QJs-Q9s, JTs,-J9s, T9s-98s, 87s-54s, AK-AT, KQ-KJ, any two offsuit ten or higher
Raise – AA-99, AKs-A8s, KQs-KTs, QJs, AK-AT, and KQ
Against a raise:
Play – AA-TT, AKs-AJs, KQs, and AK
Note: if three callers including raiser, call with any pocket pair and QJs-T9s
Reraise – AA-TT, AKs, and AK
Against a raise and reraise:
Play: AA-QQ, AKs
Raise: AA-QQ, AKs

Small Blind
No raise:
Play – Any pocket pair, AKs-A2s, KQs-K9s, QJs-Q9s, JTs,-J9s, T9s-98s, 87s-54s, AK-AT, KQ-KJ, any two offsuit ten or higher, any two suited cards
Raise – AA-99, AKs-ATs, KQs-KJs, and AK-AQ
Against a raise:
Play – AA-TT, AKs-AJs, KQs, and AK, all pocket pairs (as long as one player besides raiser)
Reraise – AA-TT, AKs, and AK

Big Blind
No raise:
Raise – AA-99, AKs-ATs, KQs-KJs, and AK-AQ
Against a raise:
Play – Any pocket pair, AKs-A2s, KQs-K9s, QJs-Q9s, JTs,-J9s, T9s-98s, 87s-54s, AK-AJ, KQ
Reraise – AA-TT, AKs, and AK
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Old 06-24-2005, 10:41 AM
QTip QTip is offline
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Default Re: PF \"SSHE Sheet\"

Let me just throw this out here. First of all this link

PF is so situational. It depends on the game. It depends on the players already in the pot, and the number of those players. It depends on your image. It depends on your postflop abilities. It depends, It depends, It depends, It depends.

People HAVE to get out of charts and understand that pf holdings do not have an intrinsic value.
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Old 06-24-2005, 10:41 AM
smartalecc5 smartalecc5 is offline
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Default Re: PF \"SSHE Sheet\"

Good and all, but isn't that just copied from the book??

There has already been a spreadhseet made with fancy colors and whatnot. Nice iniative to do it and share it with us, but it has already been done.
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Old 06-24-2005, 10:47 AM
Maximus77 Maximus77 is offline
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Default Re: PF \"SSHE Sheet\"

is your "friend" david sklansky?
because that chart is a replica of the one in SSHE.
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Old 06-24-2005, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: PF \"SSHE Sheet\"

hold 'em is not so straight forward that you can put in black and white the exact starting hands that would be profitable based on "loose" games, "tight" games, etc. situation is HUGE, opponent tendencies are MAGNANIMOUS(is that how you spell that?), your image to them is GIANT(among about 9 other factors that i won't list right now). this approach to hold 'em may not make you a loser, but you won't win as much as you could. these are good guidelines for the beginner, but they are only to guide, certainly not absolutes.
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Old 06-24-2005, 10:52 AM
mtdoak mtdoak is offline
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Default Re: PF \"SSHE Sheet\"

Let me just 2nd Qtip's post in that, w/PF play, you can't just go with B+W standards. The closer you get to the button, the more situational hands become. While thats a good starting sheet for beginners, I think you'll find that the more experienced players have will have big variations on that.
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Old 06-24-2005, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: PF \"SSHE Sheet\"

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This might be against my better judgement

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Next time trust your better judgement. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 06-24-2005, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: PF \"SSHE Sheet\"

Thanks for the constructive criticism guys, with the exception of crunchy... haha j/k, you know i love you crunch
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Old 06-24-2005, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: PF \"SSHE Sheet\"

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opponent tendencies are MAGNANIMOUS(is that how you spell that?)

[/ QUOTE ]There is a word spelt that way, but it doesn't mean what you think it means.
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Old 06-24-2005, 11:03 AM
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This might be against my better judgement

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Next time trust your better judgement. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I thought my comment was very constructive! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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