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#11
11-24-2005, 04:33 PM
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Re: Do You Really Have 9 OutsTo A Flush Draw??
If the dealer is going to let me choose from one of the 46 unseen cards then you know there are exactly 9 outs and your odds are now 46:9.
But If I only get to choose from the remaining cards in the deck, then on average there will be 6 left. 
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#12
11-24-2005, 04:35 PM
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Re: Do You Really Have 9 OutsTo A Flush Draw??
i dont think you are suppose to divide 506 by 306.
ratios are not fractions I think you are suppose to take the greatest common denomintor (I am not a math guy though, I just know that on average 3 of your outs have already been dealt)
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#13
11-24-2005, 04:42 PM
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Re: Do You Really Have 9 OutsTo A Flush Draw??
Just answer the question....If I deal out 20 cards, how many will be spades on average?? It's a very simple question. The answer is 5.
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#14
11-24-2005, 04:50 PM
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Re: Do You Really Have 9 OutsTo A Flush Draw??
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Just answer the question....If I deal out 20 cards, how many will be spades on average?? It's a very simple question. The answer is 5. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, but if you are delt two spades, will the remaining 18 cards on average contain 3 spades? The answer is no.
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#15
11-24-2005, 04:59 PM
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Re: Do You Really Have 9 OutsTo A Flush Draw??
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So if you are only going to see 2 more cards, then how often will one of your suits fall? Well you will average 6 outs in 28 cards..so the chances that one of your suits will fall is 6:28 or about 4.5:1. [/ QUOTE ] No. According to your very flawed way of reasoning it will remain 29 cards (52 - 20 - 3 = 29). In your way of reasoning 6 of these will be spades (13 - 5 - 2 = 6). The chance of hitting the flush would be 23:6 or 3.8:1 (29 - 6 = 23). Do you really not see why your reasoning is incorrect?
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#16
11-24-2005, 05:39 PM
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Re: Do You Really Have 9 OutsTo A Flush Draw??
[ QUOTE ]
i dont think you are suppose to divide 506 by 306. ratios are not fractions I think you are suppose to take the greatest common denomintor (I am not a math guy though, I just know that on average 3 of your outs have already been dealt) [/ QUOTE ] A ratio gives you odds, greatest common denominator gives you a probability
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#17
11-25-2005, 01:14 AM
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Re: Do You Really Have 9 OutsTo A Flush Draw??
[ QUOTE ]
i dont think you are suppose to divide 506 by 306. ratios are not fractions I think you are suppose to take the greatest common denomintor (I am not a math guy though, I just know that on average 3 of your outs have already been dealt) [/ QUOTE ] I know that I am 100% correct. You can confirm same by posting the problem in the Probability section.
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#20
11-25-2005, 11:45 PM
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Re: Do You Really Have 9 OutsTo A Flush Draw??
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[ QUOTE ] So if you are only going to see 2 more cards, then how often will one of your suits fall? Well you will average 6 outs in 28 cards..so the chances that one of your suits will fall is 6:28 or about 4.5:1. [/ QUOTE ] No. According to your very flawed way of reasoning it will remain 29 cards (52 - 20 - 3 = 29). In your way of reasoning 6 of these will be spades (13 - 5 - 2 = 6). The chance of hitting the flush would be 23:6 or 3.8:1 (29 - 6 = 23). Do you really not see why your reasoning is incorrect? [/ QUOTE ] It's obvious this guy is a poker god, please stop tapping the glass.
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