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Old 12-01-2005, 05:00 PM
bigt2k4 bigt2k4 is offline
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Default chasing disguised draws-when strength is shown

lets say some1 makes a large bet into a small pot and it gets called and ur on bb with lets say 58 on a A67 board with a 2 flush(u have no cards for the flush), would u suggest makin a call here (lets say there's 4bb in pot and some1 bets 8bb into pot, ur not gettin proper pot odds, but u know if u hit ur 6outer, they will put u on flush draw and fire out again large, and the caller may call again allowin to u to cr 2 people out of pot? In this case I may think the implied odds are generally large enuff to make the call despite gettin very little odds to do so to spike ur 8outer, since they dont put u on str8 draw especially with 58 and not 89(more obvious draw that sticks out to people).
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: chasing disguised draws-when strength is shown

When the situation is right you certainly can chase based on implied odds.

There a few keys to identify good opportunities for this...

a) Your opponent should have a decent hand he'll hesitate to lay down or he's a calling station.

b) Your draw should give you the best hand... don't get into a situation where the card that makes your hand also makes his, but his could be better. For example drawing on a three flush board when your single suited card is low in value making it easy for him to beat you flush over flush.

c) Understand the odds of chasing certain hands such as flush draws, OESD, so you can decide what the pot is laying you now and what you need to get from your opponent should you make your hand. (Typically you want to do this in situations where stacks are deep and you can put him all-in and get a call).

d)Your hand should be somewhat hidden. A board of 567 with 2 spades is not a board you really want to draw into. A scare card could make an opponent slow down or fold.
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Old 12-01-2005, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: chasing disguised draws-when strength is shown

its called implied odds, how much will you make if you hit your hand. it allows you to make calls that pot odds wise are improper but implied you are making the right call. ie 30 in pot bets 10, improper to call, you call and hit and win and final pot is 100 you actually called getting 9 to 1 which makes the call correct
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