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Old 09-01-2005, 12:20 AM
ChuckNorris ChuckNorris is offline
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Default Jacks ITM

Is there anything I should do differently? I know you're gonna tell me to push preflop, which is cool, but since I didn't, how's my play otherwise?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (3 handed) converter

BB (t4225)
Button (t1780)
Hero (t3995)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1100</font>, BB calls t700.

Flop: (t2200) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1200</font>, BB calls t1200.

Turn: (t4600) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero pushes</font>, BB calls t1695.

River: (t6295) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t6295

results in white: <font color="white">they had Qs6s </font>
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: Jacks ITM

push preflop, push the flop, dont wait until the freakin ace falls to push...

looks like you got greedy with a big pocket pair..
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:28 AM
ChuckNorris ChuckNorris is offline
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Default Re: Jacks ITM

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push preflop, push the flop, dont wait until the freakin ace falls to push...

looks like you got greedy with a big pocket pair..

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Why not let villain raise me with crap or make the mistake of calling with tempting but not good enough odds?
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:29 AM
the_joker the_joker is offline
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Default Re: Jacks ITM

I'd check and fold after your flop bet was called. A nice bluff on the turn, but I don't think you have too much fold equity.
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:31 AM
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push preflop, push the flop, dont wait until the freakin ace falls to push...

looks like you got greedy with a big pocket pair..

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Why not let villain raise me with crap or make the mistake of calling with tempting but not good enough odds?

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because the blinds are big enough that playing postflop poker is no longer necessary.
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:31 AM
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I might try to check raise this flop, check/check is not total disaster (Unless an ace or king falls) and a check raise might win me some chips when I'm actually in front.

Of course, I wouldn't be in this position.. but you know that anyway [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Lori
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Old 09-01-2005, 12:37 AM
ChuckNorris ChuckNorris is offline
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C/R does sound like a nice idea. I just almost never do it unless I am the one who called the raise preflop. People love to push with A-highs and stuff like that once ITM / HUP though, so it might be a good idea even with no specific reads.

I'm not entirely convinced of the superiority of just pushing every time you have ~10BB. Not saying that I know better, but I like to play flops from time to time with good hands against bad players.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:43 AM
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Every other raise should be a push, making the smaller raise with your big pairs is just suspicious.
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Old 09-02-2005, 01:59 AM
ChuckNorris ChuckNorris is offline
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Every other raise should be a push, making the smaller raise with your big pairs is just suspicious.

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I know that, and I only make the smaller raises if that has been my standard raise in the previous hands. For example, if the blinds have just gotten bigger when I'm dealt JJ.
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Old 09-02-2005, 03:19 AM
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Push preflop. You are giving the guy pot odds to draw out on you, and that's precisely what he did.
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