KQ hand

blackaces13 · #1 11-21-2004, 12:43 AM

Regular PP .5/1, haven't been at the table long and haven't seen anything too crazy.

I get K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] UTG, sometimes I raise this, sometimes I dont, this time I didn't, eh.

I call, 3 LP callers and both blinds play.

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players, 3 BBs)

I bet, 3 callers.

Turn J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players, 4.5BBs)

I bet and get raised by the next player and the other guys fold.

Call it down? Fold?

skunkworks · #2 11-21-2004, 01:05 AM

Call it down. You've got a gutshot, and it's possible that your hand is good or that pairing your kicker might drag you the pot. The pot is big enough to justify a calldown.

EvanJC · #3 11-21-2004, 01:30 AM

i'd raise this preflop about 100% of the time. other than that, i think that calling down is just fine.

scott2130 · #4 11-21-2004, 01:44 AM

Sorry Evan, I would only raise this in late position and it would have to be suited. I agree with the call down.

EvanJC · #5 11-21-2004, 01:46 AM

yeah i had heroes position messed up, yeah this is definitely just an open limp

Piiop · #6 11-21-2004, 02:05 AM

Yeah, call down w/o improvement.

I know you didn't post this for the preflop play and I'm sure you have your reasons why you didn't, but since some people had to comment I feel the need to step in. (I'm kind of like a SuperHero)

To Evan and Scott: This should almost always be an easy raise in any unraised pot outside the blinds.

scott2130 · #7 11-21-2004, 02:10 AM

Piiop
Are you sure about that. UTG without being suited. Any Ace and he is beat. You gave Greg J the same advice as Evan and I. Did you get the position right?

Piiop · #8 11-21-2004, 02:17 AM

Hello scott2130 and welcome to the forums.

Yes, I am most definitely sure about it.

scott2130 · #9 11-21-2004, 02:22 AM

Piiop
I edited my response to you. Please re-read it.

blackaces13 · #10 11-21-2004, 02:25 AM

I did call down. And I lost. I basically always call down in situations like this and it fells like I lose about 95% of the time if the turn raiser isn't a maniac.

The pot wasn't that big and it costs me 2BBs to see if I'm good. I'm beginning to wonder if its even worth it.