$33 - AJs level 1, flop TP + draw

schwza · #1 10-10-2005, 12:10 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

Button (t770)
SB (t1015)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t785)
UTG+2 (t920)
MP1 (t785)
MP2 (t775)
Hero (t770)
CO (t580)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t15, 2 folds, Hero calls t15, CO calls t15, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t75) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 bets t40, Hero ??

tigerite · #2 10-10-2005, 12:19 PM

Raise. Any diamond may kill your action and you could very well have the best hand right now anyway.

schwza · #3 10-10-2005, 10:14 PM

bump for evening crowd.

-Skeme- · #4 10-10-2005, 10:19 PM

You can't say any [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] will kill your action and follow it up with "and you MAY have the best hand right now."

lastchance · #5 10-10-2005, 10:25 PM

Your hand = good right now.

Make the raise, charge the flush draw to draw dead, and be prepared to call the 3-bet.

Get your money in while your hand is still a monster.

#6 10-10-2005, 11:23 PM

I would reraise to the size of the pot and be fine getting it all in after a 3-bet on this flop. If villian just calls my flop bet and checked to me on the turn, I would take a free card on any blank, raise 150/200 more on any diamond. I would call any bet on the river after checking behind on the turn and would push if my hand improved. If I check behind on the turn and river blanks and villian checks again, I might consider an overbet representing a missed draw in hopes of a loose call. I also think betting 200 or so gets called by worse holdings on the river.

schwza · #7 10-11-2005, 10:55 AM

i'm surprised everyone was saying to raise. this was my thinking:

- if someone besides utg has a diamond draw, my raise will probably make them fold. it's not that likely that any of them do, but missing out on a ~1/6 chance on the turn and river to catch a card that guarantees busting someone stinks. if utg has a diamond draw, he’ll call my raise, so that’s not a concern.

- if someone has an oesd, it stinks a little to let them come along for cheap, but they only have 6 outs to bust me, and if one of the 2 straight/flush cards comes, i take a lot of money off them. and i have a redraw if they hit their 6-outer.

- if someone has a gutshot or worse A, whoopy, they have 3 outs and i’m content to let them put money in.

so my hand is not particularly vulnerable. i’m only worried about the odd 2 pair or set, as AQ/AK usually raises. i’m happy to try to extract from Ax. the decision in my mind is whether or not to raise the turn/river if he keeps betting. i.e., play it like “keep the pot small / he’ll fold worse and reraise better” or like “i have the best hand and will be paid off by worse, so get chips in.”

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

Button (t770)
SB (t1015)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t785)
UTG+2 (t920)
MP1 (t785)
MP2 (t775)
Hero (t770)
CO (t580)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t15, 2 folds, Hero calls t15, CO calls t15, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t75) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 bets t40, Hero calls t40, CO folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: (t155) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+2 bets t70, hero?

zambonidrivr · #8 10-11-2005, 11:23 AM

he is giving you proper odds to make the call. I would call and see the river here. What makes this hand difficult for me is that it's so early. I'm almost inclined to fold preflop, but I am sure that's not a popular choice around here.

schwza · #9 10-11-2005, 11:39 AM

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he is giving you proper odds to make the call.

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even considering folding the turn is really bad, imo.

zambonidrivr · #10 10-11-2005, 11:48 AM

i was suggesting a fold preflpp vs. post