Early in a sng

dauler · #1 05-28-2005, 04:21 PM

Got two high suited cards hands which I feel like I botched, I always get attached to my 1 pair hands when I hit and I'm being faced with my tournament life. Anyone got any specific suggestions for how I could have played these hands better, or general strategy for playing high cards when they hit against unknown opponents?

*EDIT* Oh, by the way, this is 10+1 level.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t875)
MP1 (t1225)
MP2 (t680)
MP3 (t640)
CO (t950)
Hero (t755)
SB (t785)
BB (t695)
UTG (t595)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP2 calls t15, 2 folds, Hero raises to t70, 2 folds, MP2 calls t55.

Flop: (t165) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 bets t55, Hero raises to t250, MP2 calls t195.

Turn: (t665) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (t665) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 bets t360 (All-In), Hero calls t360.

Final Pot: t1385

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

SB (t480)
BB (t290)
UTG (t1470)
UTG+1 (t800)
MP1 (t840)
MP2 (t695)
MP3 (t950)
Hero (t715)
Button (t1760)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, 1 fold, MP1 calls t15, 2 folds, Hero raises to t80, 3 folds, UTG calls t65, MP1 calls t65.

Flop: (t265) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets t150, UTG raises to t300, MP1 folds, Hero calls t150.

Turn: (t865) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets t325, Hero raises to t335 (All-In), UTG calls t10.

River: (t1535) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t1535

KingDan · #2 05-29-2005, 11:40 AM

The first one, this raise PF sucks.

After a post about this, I decided to stop raising AQ pf in early levels, also. The UTG minimum checkraise screams of a monster, knowing most people won't laydown for only 150 more chips.

the_joker · #3 05-29-2005, 12:15 PM

I think you need to need to bet the turn on the first hand. You don't want to give free cards on a scary board. If you are going to call an all-in bet on the river when another scary card hits, then you should have pushed the turn. Also, you possibly could have raised less on the flop, since you've pretty much commited yourself to the hand with this big of a raise.

RobGW · #4 05-29-2005, 12:29 PM

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The first one, this raise PF sucks.

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Um, can you elaborate on that?

BradleyT · #5 05-29-2005, 01:07 PM

It doesn't suck it's a good isolation raise given the situation.

flo · #6 05-29-2005, 01:24 PM

I'd push with the first hand on the turn.

CWolf · #7 05-29-2005, 01:28 PM

First hand: If you feel you have to play this hand, just limp. Secondly, push the turn. You're already pot-committed anyway.

Second hand: Don't raise this hand. Just limp. It makes it much easier to get away from in later streets if you feel you're beat, because the pot will be smaller.

KingDan · #8 05-29-2005, 01:50 PM

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It doesn't suck it's a good isolation raise given the situation.

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I thought a limp was more appropriate. I agree 'sucks' was probably taking it too far, but I don't want to put in 70 chips with kq that early.

the_joker · #9 05-29-2005, 08:28 PM

What about a smaller raise of 45?

Moonsugar · #10 05-29-2005, 08:53 PM

Hand 2: Seems ok the way you played it.

Hand 1: I like raising PF here. I would raise 60 (3x BB + 1BB/limper). Its not a big deal but it is a way to make your raises a standard amount and make people not have the correct odds to call your big hands. Unless you have some uber read on the way this guy plays and that since this guy called the flop you are beaten you have to push the turn. If he had K10 you are going to lose this anyways. The way you played it you give him infinite odds to see the river and no chance to fold an ace or draw.