99 preflop decision $100r

[ansky451]

Psh, its not pent up. Its open and straight foward aggression. I'm sorry if the OP got offended or thought I was too harsh, I'm just sour after a horrid run today.

[greg nice]

no offense taken. i completely despise short stack poker and that just what tournaments happen to be. give me 200 bb and ill outplay every table.

its seems i have trouble mid game like 20-30 bb stacks figuring whether i should call to see flops and outplay. one reason i didnt was because i had taken two pots from this guy recently preflop, and if i played back maybe he would get pissed and not let it happen.

[Dave D]

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Basically what Ansky said, without all the pent up aggression/roid rage.

call and play a flop, occasionally raise to like 4k occasionaly.

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Basically what Ansky said, with even more roid rage.

At least call and see what the flop brings. Who knows, maybe you'll get another caller.

Why raise to 4000? Vilain raise to 3xBB and you only raise to 6.5 BB. Wouldn't a raise to 5000 be bettor to get more info?

I think that folding is tight but not necessary wrong. Playing back at him for a 3rd time could make him play back at you, you don't want to call a re-raise neither loose 4k.

So call can be an option, but if the flop is low, and you call a bet of let's say 3000. The turn is low again, can you really fold to a 7000 bet that commits you? I think that not risking it, when you don't feel you'll have control of the hand is the right move.

I'm not afraid of playing on the flop, but I'm not willing to give that much of my stack when I'll have a hard time playing the hand.

Would you call with AJ?

[greg nice]

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So call can be an option, but if the flop is low, and you call a bet of let's say 3000. The turn is low again, can you really fold to a 7000 bet that commits you?

I'm not afraid of playing on the flop, but I'm not willing to give that much of my stack when I'll have a hard time playing the hand.


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exactly my concerns as well.

[adanthar]

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WSo call can be an option, but if the flop is low, and you call a bet of let's say 3000. The turn is low again, can you really fold to a 7000 bet that commits you?

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When he let the last two raises go? Yeah, I'm fine with that.

BTW a Q73 flop is very different from a T73 flop and I might well just fold the first one.

(edit: This is not just because he can have a Q, it's also because of how a weak tight player may decide to play JJ-TT when an overcard hits.)

[John W]

If the flop comes all low cards and he leads out for 3000k, there is no calling at that point it's auto push. Your looking for a good flop and I think anything 10 and under would be considered a good flop.

[greg nice]

so you dont even consider the possibility of an overpair?

[John W]

Of course you do. But so may players will make the standard continuation bet with a good ace hoping that the flop didn't help you and try and take down the pot with a strong bet. This might sound a little crazy but if you dont want to move in, a mini raise to 6k will get the information you need, if he moves in you can elect to save your last 7k, but you are putting the maxium pressure on him without risking your tourney esentially you are telling him that you are commited, but you are really not. If you look at the math it doesn't look right but you are still in the tourney with time to rebuild. Most won't agree with this line of play but most will go bust in this spot.

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occasionally raise to like 4k occasionaly.

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Department of redundancy department.

Sorry I couldn't help myself =)

Also, I agree, see a flop and go from there. Don't get too fancy though. I am interested if you guys would advocate the same call with 88.