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12-19-2005, 01:34 PM
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Re: 20/40 Getting aggressive
I dunno man… and there’s no way you can know either. I mean, you don’t know him so you can’t put him on a range. The limp does seem fishy though, so I suppose it’s okay.
Personally, I’d rather wait till I have a read before I get involved with so little money in the pot. 
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#2
12-19-2005, 02:15 PM
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Re: 20/40 Getting aggressive
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Personally, I’d rather wait till I have a read before I get involved with so little money in the pot. [/ QUOTE ] I know what you're saying man, but thats just my point. I see so many players here always wanting to wait for a better read or a better spot. Isnt it all relative though? I mean, If I am right here and I'm putting money in with the best hand, then it dosent really matter whats in the pot. I actually think my desire to get into risky situations that most would want to "wait for a better spot" is what makes me more money than players that play tighter. Stud is a game of pushing small percentages. It not only supplies me with a better image helping my good hands get paid off and appearing to be an action player. But I think I now have played enough stud through the years to handle situations where I've put myself in jeopardy very well. This not only goes for plays like this, but playing additional hands on third as well, using my superior skills to "catch up" on the later rounds. Like the gospel (7csfap's) says "if you can find a few extra hands per session and average a few bucks on each...". I think several players (Roland you're especially one of the ones I have in mind) could play more hands and show a much larger profit than they do now. Perhaps this is one of those hands. Mike Emery
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#3
12-19-2005, 02:36 PM
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Re: 20/40 Getting aggressive
With all due respect, what's the point here? You started off your post by defending what you knew the response would be. You know it's -EV, at least by the book. If you feel like for you it's +EV because you get a "better image" or you know how to "handle situations where I've put myself in jeopardy" then go for it.
If you're going to play this way, then go for it. But again, why are you posting this hand? And when you get the inevitable response, why are you so defensive?
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#4
12-19-2005, 03:23 PM
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Re: 20/40 Getting aggressive
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With all due respect, what's the point here? You started off your post by defending what you knew the response would be. You know it's -EV, at least by the book. If you feel like for you it's +EV because you get a "better image" or you know how to "handle situations where I've put myself in jeopardy" then go for it. If you're going to play this way, then go for it. But again, why are you posting this hand? And when you get the inevitable response, why are you so defensive? [/ QUOTE ]
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#5
12-19-2005, 03:25 PM
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Re: 20/40 Getting aggressive
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You know it's -EV, at least by the book. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think he's saying that at all.. I think he's saying he thinks his 5's are slightly ahead, and he's not afraid to push that edge. If his opponent folds somewhere along the line that's great.
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#6
12-20-2005, 03:47 AM
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Re: 20/40 Getting aggressive
[ QUOTE ]
With all due respect, what's the point here? You started off your post by defending what you knew the response would be. You know it's -EV, at least by the book. If you feel like for you it's +EV because you get a "better image" or you know how to "handle situations where I've put myself in jeopardy" then go for it. If you're going to play this way, then go for it. But again, why are you posting this hand? And when you get the inevitable response, why are you so defensive? [/ QUOTE ] The point of this hand was to generate discussion. I dont generally post hands that are strait forward and mundane. No one, including myself, learns from them. You really need to take a chill pill, man. The opening of my post was simply poking fun at a few players I know and have posted with on this forum for along time. They all typically play tighter than me and I was only joking around with this fact, not being defensive of the play I made. And whats to say this is -EV by the book? Where in the text do you see a hand example like the one I posted? I think you should have more posts than 83, and even more credentials on top of that if you wish to question a hand that I post. To better players I think this hand is very interesting and definitely worth me posting. Mike Emery
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#7
12-22-2005, 08:14 AM
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Re: 20/40 Getting aggressive
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I think you should have more posts than 83, and even more credentials on top of that if you wish to question a hand that I post. [/ QUOTE ] Wow, that's an incredible ego you've got there, even for a poker player. SpaceAce
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#8
12-22-2005, 12:25 PM
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Re: 20/40 Getting aggressive
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[ QUOTE ] I think you should have more posts than 83, and even more credentials on top of that if you wish to question a hand that I post. [/ QUOTE ] Wow, that's an incredible ego you've got there, even for a poker player. [/ QUOTE ] On a forum that has always prided itself as a non-flaming forum, encourages newbies to participate, etc. I agree this is extremely rude and arrogant. Memo to self: Remember that I am not worthy of responding to Mike Emery's posts.
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#9
12-22-2005, 12:52 PM
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Re: 20/40 Getting aggressive
Don,
Mike was just joshing around with some of us with the tone of his post, then Uwda didn't see the humor, then Mike responded. He is actually a very nice guy (and hilarious) IRL even if he has no sense of direction. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] Jeff
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#10
12-19-2005, 03:58 PM
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Re: 20/40 Getting aggressive
Calm down uwda. I’m sure Mike didn’t post this hand to boast about his awesome poker skills but because he thought it ws interesting and he played it correctly.
[ QUOTE ] Isnt it all relative though? I mean, If I am right here and I'm putting money in with the best hand, then it dosent really matter whats in the pot. [/ QUOTE ] Correct. Here’s my problem though: You belive you have a small edge - lets say you figure you’re a 55-45 favorite on average. The thing is you have to be real sure about this in this ante structure. If this game had a $3 ante things would be different… even if you messed up and are actually a 55-45 dog, you’d still win that extra $1.80. Or if this had been 6 handed instead of 4-handed. As it is though, the risk-reward ratio just sucks in that game. I know you know this stuff, but what else can I say. [ QUOTE ] I think several players (Roland you're especially one of the ones I have in mind) could play more hands and show a much larger profit than they do now. [/ QUOTE ] Well, I don’t know. You must be over-estimating my skills because every time I try to loosen up I crash and burn. I’ve tried $3/$6 even, just to see if I would do better playing more hands in looser structure. I have a lot of problems there though - I think because most marginal hands need to get heads-up to show a profit, but those guys just never fold. 3Q3 isn’t all that profitable 5-way… Probably I just suck. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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