Quick PreFlop Dilemma

[cwsiggy]

Interesting, Ed Miller's chart says to fold TT and JJ! from BB with raise, and reraise in front of you (loose and tight charts)
Probably the crappy position. I realize the chart is not set in stone however.....

[ReadyEddie]

Well after doing some quick math, and looking at TOP "the small pair is worth playing in most cases even gettign something like 5:1"

So assuming we're playing strictly for set value. Since i figure we have to dodge overs with TT. This would be a +EV call is UTG+1 doesnt cap, but a -EV call if UTG+1 caps?

[JaysonWeberFCP]

What about raising TT along w/ JJ and QQ? Makes it harder for SB and BB to call w/ there A-x and K-x if you're playing some donkeys... Position is pretty cool too.

Just a thought.

[cwsiggy]

He is the BB!!! Postion sucks. I suppose for the implied odds if you hit a set it may be worth it, but I was just going off the SSH chart which probably has you folding these because of position. But then agian, the fishy lag could have anything, and so could the SB, I don't know....

[JaysonWeberFCP]

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He is the BB!!! Postion sucks. I suppose for the implied odds if you hit a set it may be worth it, but I was just going off the SSH chart which probalby has you folding these cause of position.

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So this is what I get for not sleeping and looking at 4-8 tables the last 12 hours... Sorry guys.

Im grabbing a beer and getting the hell off of here.

Call/Raise/Raise.

Bleh.

[Dagger78]

Call, Call, Raise.

[Jeff W]

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What do you do with TT, JJ, QQ

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Cap, cap cap.