pocket 10s multi pot - Page 2

hemstock · #11 10-24-2005, 05:22 PM

The first hand.
There are 7 people still in a very small pot!
Not 2 or 3. SEVEN
It's Party .5/1
I am almost certain someone out of this huge field is gonna call down with a Q. IMO the turn bet is not worth it

Ray_bob · #12 10-24-2005, 05:24 PM

thank you thats what i was thinkin. but i wasnt sure cause it is .5/1 and i didnt want to give free cards.

#13 10-24-2005, 05:30 PM

I raise PF and check/fold the frop. Somebody will always have a weak Q and will not fold.

Avatar of Wine · #14 10-24-2005, 05:42 PM

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thank you thats what i was thinkin. but i wasnt sure cause it is .5/1 and i didnt want to give free cards.

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Along these same lines, this can help explain the rationale for raising preflop with TT.

Along with the gains you'll experience by 'taking control of the hand' you make it even more incorrect for the others in the hand to play things like Q7o (or whatever weak Queens we're fearing).

Also, I question the logic in going for 'overcalls' preflop on a loose table - if they're going to call, make them call two. They might just do it.

deception5 · #15 10-24-2005, 05:49 PM

I'm not sure I follow up that flop with a turn bet. First, you have 2 of the T's so a hand like T9 is less likely. No one raised preflop so AK is less likely (and 98 can't call your flop bet profitably). There is no flush draw and you were called on the flop by 2 opponents with 2 broadways on the board. So you're basically hoping for something like AT, but with 2 opponents and 2 overcards it's very unlikely that both are on draws here.

I'd consider calling the river but not overcalling.

TomBrooks · #16 10-24-2005, 06:56 PM

PF: Raise, the on the FLOP: Bet if there is noone or only one player left behind you.

FLOP AS PLAYED: Check looks good.

TURN AS PLAYED: Bet looks good. Now, I think you want to call the raise as you showed no strength preflop or on flop.

gopnik · #17 10-24-2005, 07:03 PM

raise preflop, bet the flop, bet the turn, bet the river....bet, bet, bet.

sorry, did not see BB's turn c/r. Need reads here, but he might c/raised you because you checked all the way and he thought you are just trying to steal.

#18 10-24-2005, 07:37 PM

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I raise PF and check/fold the frop. Somebody will always have a weak Q and will not fold.

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You don't make money this way. Have to bet the flop here if we raised preflop, a queen will not always be out there.

#19 10-24-2005, 07:51 PM

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Just played this

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG (poster) checks, 1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

Results:
BB has Jc Ac (one pair, jacks).
UTG has As Ts (high card, ace).
Hero has Th Td (one pair, tens).
Outcome: BB wins 7.75 BB.

How often do you think that at least one out of seven people call down with a weak Q just to make the call profitable?

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nh, I play it the same

TheDudeChad · #20 10-24-2005, 09:33 PM

Would anyone like to explain to me why we aren't betting this flop? The pot isn't EXTREMELY small and we have a pair higher than second pair. Wouldn't you bet in this spot if you had A9s? No one has showed strength so far, why is everyone assuming someone has a queen?