QQ hand from SB. Call,fold,raise?

poboy · #1 06-28-2005, 10:46 PM

Main villian in this hand is a rock(14/12/9)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) converter

MP2 ($24.60)
MP3 ($14.80)
CO ($53.10)
Button ($126.55)
Hero ($71.15)
BB ($61.75)
UTG ($13.25)
UTG+1 ($30.90)
MP1 ($56.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, 3 folds, Button calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2.50, MP1 folds, Button calls $2.50.

Flop: ($9.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $6, BB calls $6, Button folds.

Turn: ($21.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: ($21.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $20, Hero pukes because he didn't bet the turn and is lost now.

AllIn3High · #2 06-28-2005, 11:07 PM

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Main villian in this hand is a rock(14/12/9)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) converter

MP2 ($24.60)
MP3 ($14.80)
CO ($53.10)
Button ($126.55)
Hero ($71.15)
BB ($61.75)
UTG ($13.25)
UTG+1 ($30.90)
MP1 ($56.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, 3 folds, Button calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2.50, MP1 folds, Button calls $2.50.

Flop: ($9.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $6, BB calls $6, Button folds.

Turn: ($21.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: ($21.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $20, Hero pukes because he didn't bet the turn and is lost now.

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I'd throw out a $15 bet on the river and fold to a raise (or check to induce a bluff against aggressive opponents).

Since you checked the river you HAVE to call, he could be betting anything here, and i really think you're ahead here alot more often than you're behind.

SydPokerFan · #3 06-28-2005, 11:48 PM

What are you talking about-"lost now"? You're probably ahead!

poboy · #4 06-29-2005, 12:23 AM

What am I still ahead of that a rock will call a pf raise and flop bet on that board with? I can't see 88 or worse calling the flop. Maybe a stubborn AK/AQ but I doubt it, this guy is tight. Trouble is I can't see him calling pf with anything containing a J other than JJ and that seems unlikely, possibly 99 but I can't be sure. That is why I'm lost....

poboy · #5 06-29-2005, 12:26 AM

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I'd throw out a $15 bet on the river and fold to a raise

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I like this line alot better than mine. Do you bet the turn?

AllIn3High · #6 06-29-2005, 12:37 AM

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I'd throw out a $15 bet on the river and fold to a raise

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I like this line alot better than mine. Do you bet the turn?

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How many hands do you have on the "rock" a PFA of 9 is quite a lot, I'd expect him to bet almost any hand with value when you check to him on the turn.

In this hand, I'd probably check/call the turn (and still bet the river). No reason to bloat the pot and you would really like to see the river - yes the board is draw heavy but if anyone needs to hit a draw on this board it's you.

SydPokerFan · #7 06-29-2005, 02:06 AM

I put him on AK, AQ, QQ, JJ,TT,99,88,77.You have the majority of hands beat. I'm not quite clear from your post - what range do you put him on?

MTBlue · #8 06-29-2005, 04:39 AM

The standard line is to check the turn.
I don't know what you're ahead of now so fold. Villain is only playing pocket pairs and maybe ak aq aj. You don't beat anythign that would call your flop bet, so fold. Not hard though I understand the attachment to QQ

poboy · #9 06-29-2005, 09:00 PM

I just called, I don't like to raise when I can't put vilian on a hand. He flipped over JJ and so began a long night of finding monsters under my bed.

Snag · #10 06-29-2005, 09:07 PM

This reads like nothing or an absolute monster to me. If you say this guy's a rock - fold your hand, and find a better space to get it in.