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Old 10-11-2005, 11:03 PM
Rockatansky Rockatansky is offline
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Default Come on in, the water\'s fine...

This hand took place on Empire just a few minutes ago. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

UTG ($66.07)
MP ($81.69)
CO ($43.13)
Button ($48.95)
SB ($50)
Hero ($55.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($1.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks.

River: ($1.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $5</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $3.50.

Final Pot: $11.75

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Jc As (four of a kind, kings).
MP has 9h Js (four of a kind, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $11.20 </font>

ETA: corrected results
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Old 10-11-2005, 11:14 PM
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Default Re: Come on in, the water\'s fine...

Why didn't you go all in on the river?
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Old 10-11-2005, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: Come on in, the water\'s fine...

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Why didn't you go all in on the river?

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Old 10-11-2005, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: Come on in, the water\'s fine...

Rake? Who would raise without an ace? Oh wait...
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Old 10-11-2005, 11:25 PM
Rockatansky Rockatansky is offline
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Default Re: Come on in, the water\'s fine...

I assumed (incorrectly in this case) that my opponent would raise with an Ace and an Ace only. If I had re-raised all-in and he in fact held an Ace, then I would have actually lost money versus just calling because of the rake.

I guess you could argue that I should always go all-in here, because the times that he doesn't hold an Ace and calls will more than make up for the times that he does and that I lose extra money in rake. However, I honestly thought there was no way that he would raise without the Ace.
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Old 10-12-2005, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: Come on in, the water\'s fine...

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Rake? Who would raise without an ace? Oh wait...

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That's ok, Empire has rakeback
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Old 10-12-2005, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: Come on in, the water\'s fine...

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I assumed (incorrectly in this case) that my opponent would raise with an Ace and an Ace only. If I had re-raised all-in and he in fact held an Ace, then I would have actually lost money versus just calling because of the rake.

I guess you could argue that I should always go all-in here, because the times that he doesn't hold an Ace and calls will more than make up for the times that he does and that I lose extra money in rake. However, I honestly thought there was no way that he would raise without the Ace.

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never make a call to save a dollar or so in rake....people are dumb enough that u will get paid overall.
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Old 10-12-2005, 01:50 AM
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Do you think MP wakes up to realize that he does not have a boat and folds or you think he calls the all in? Then again...maybe he was worried about you having the 5th king and folds.
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: Come on in, the water\'s fine...

Why didnt you push ?
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