Will a good SS Hold'em player help me?

[cnfuzzd]

the best advice given here is to stop playing at ameristar. Im also in the kc area, and have played there several times. Im a fairly strong winner in most online mid limit games, and still am barely ahead playing there. Essentially, you are losing a big bet on almost every pot you win (rake, jp drop, and toke) and that doesnt include the .16BB you are losing everytime the nice lady brings you a water. I know live play is appealing, but you should use it almost exlcusively as a release or escape from online play, which is much more lucrative not only in reduced rake, but also in external costs (gas, tips, food). In addition, you can play at least two tables, meaning you should be able to increase your hourly earn without increasing you ROR to much.

Also, while i havent seen you play at all, im willing to bet you are giving action far too much post flop when you are beat. Given the already high cost of just sitting at the table, even one bad call an hour can devestate your winrate.

If you arent willing to play online, theres not many other options for you. The occasional 6/12 kill that runs is a little better, but would require more than youre probably willing to put into a new roll. I would follow the advice given above, except i would deposit 200-ish into party, playing the 1/2 game. In addition, by playing online you can more easily track your hands using pokertracker, and its far easier to show your hands to others here on the forum.

peace

john nickle

[bernie]

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and its far easier to show your hands to others here on the forum.


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It's even easier to respond to hands already posted and compare your thinking/reasoning to other responders.

b

[sthief09]

usually im one to jump onto the bandwagon of making rude comments to these kinds of posts, but i think this is a legitimate one. there are a few problems. the most important one is that youre probably not playing that well. when ssh first came out, there were a ton of people coming on here and claiming the advice is flawed. it was clear from reading the hand posts that they were just misapplying his good advice. poker is not the kind of game where you can study real hard and expect good results immediately. i think being in college makes it tougher because we are so used to getting results roughly proportionate to the amount of effort we put in. you need to log as many hands as possible to get experience, which is what youre lacking. actual experience will get you better a lot quicker than reading ssh again.

to get this experience you really need to play online. i understand you find playing online a lot less fun than playing live. i think everyone does. but online play is like a chore for the priviledge of getting to play live. you build your roll a lot faster so when you do go play live you can play 30/60 or 100/200 or whatever. that is a lot more fun than playing 3/6. youre also paying a higher rake live so its hard to make as much money. you can make maybe $20/hr playing 3/6 live but probably upwards of $60 or 70 playing 3/6 online. so you will make money faster and you will accelerate your growth at the cost of having less fun for now.

also, from a statistical standpoint, it is possible for you to be playing winning poker. most kill games ive played tend to be kill more often than not so youre really playing a 5/10ish game rather than 3/6. you lost around 320 BB now. that is possible that you are a very slight winner and had a run like that. clearly you cant be crushing the game, which you ought to be able to do if youre playing good poker. so if you are very unlucky, like 99th percentile unlucky, it's possible you are actually a small winner.

[bernie]

Nice post...Other than the part quoted below.

He can play both online and live while getting back on his feet. Both can benefit each other.

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you can make maybe $20/hr playing 3/6 live

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No one is consistently making $20/hr in a live 3-6 game. Not even close.

b

A long losing streak is a thing to behold. Don't think for a minute that lady luck can't kick you to the extent you describe but it's not likely. Listen to what these guys are saying, move down in stakes,play some online and get more experience.

[Browny]

Hi Farfenugen,

I liked your post and I disagree with some of the posters opinions of your issues.

Although, I spent 3 or 4 months playing .50/1.00 online before I made it to a casino for the first time, my first experience with 3/6 live was astonishing. The looseness of the game was something I had not encountered online. It seemed like an entirely new challenge to learn to beat this game. I did lose for several sessions before I could make the adjustments necessary to beat this game. I, like you, enjoy the live game and I think it is important in the development of your game to learn to play both live and online. The two games in my opinion are very different.

I have since moved up substantially in levels both online and live but looking back at my stats at 3/6 live I earned 2.23 BB/hr for 13.38/hr. I don’t want to make a super long post with the adjustments I made, but pm me if you would like to know. I am certainly not an expert compared to many of the posters on here who could help you with specifics if they wanted to.