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Old 09-20-2005, 01:44 PM
jazzcom jazzcom is offline
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Default Nut Flush Out of Position

10-handed 2-4 limit. Hero is SB with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Preflop: UTG folds, UTG+1 limps, a few folds, cutoff calls, button folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, cutoff folds.
Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls (comments?)
River: 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero checks (bad move probably), UTG+1 checks

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Old 09-20-2005, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: Nut Flush Out of Position

why get fancy? bet the turn, bet the river.
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Old 09-20-2005, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: Nut Flush Out of Position

I would just play this hand straight forward. Betting the turn and 3-betting a raise. Given your turn check you need to raise when he bets.
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Old 09-20-2005, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: Nut Flush Out of Position

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10-handed 2-4 limit. Hero is SB with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Preflop: UTG folds, UTG+1 limps, a few folds, cutoff calls, button folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, cutoff folds.
Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls (comments?)
River: 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero checks (bad move probably), UTG+1 checks

Thanks for listening.
-jazz

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id raise preflop. flop looks fine. then c/r the turn, bet the river. you missed a TON of bets here. also, give some reads when possible. on the turn it was heads up with the nut flush, were you calling there intending to checkraise the river?

rj
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Old 09-20-2005, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: Nut Flush Out of Position

i disagree... if he misclicked while attempting to bet a c/r will fold all but the 2nd, MAYBE 3rd nut flushes out there, a lot of the time. i'd donkbet the river and hope to be raised.
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Old 09-20-2005, 01:52 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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id raise preflop.

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Agree.

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on the turn it was heads up with the nut flush, were you calling there intending to checkraise the river?

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Isn't the answer to this question quite obvious?
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Old 09-20-2005, 01:52 PM
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yeah, good call. i didn't even notice he hadn't raised preflop. that was your first mistake
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Old 09-20-2005, 01:52 PM
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Check/raising anywhere in this hand sucks. Bet/3-bet if given the chance.
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Old 09-20-2005, 01:54 PM
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i disagree... if he misclicked while attempting to bet a c/r will fold all but the 2nd, MAYBE 3rd nut flushes out there, a lot of the time. i'd donkbet the river and hope to be raised.

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You're right. I don't think we'll get raised often by donkbetting the river, but we'll certainly get more calls from confused opponents. A read could change it though.
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Old 09-20-2005, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Nut Flush Out of Position

well sure, i would love if he bet, 3 bet, but since he checked and saw a bet, im confused as to why he didnt raise, if not to try to force a river checkraise. although that was a pretty poor idea. on such a scary board the opponent wont usually bet here with much. just betting the river would be better. it would be beautiful if you would have gotten the turn checkraise in, bet the river and he called. then you would win 3 bets as opposed to one.

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