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Old 10-18-2005, 02:14 AM
DeadMoneyOC DeadMoneyOC is offline
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Default Re: Kings not strong in loose Stud/8 games

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In loose stud8 games a good rule to remember is NEVER GO HIGH. Its really that simple.

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I play a lot of short handed 1-2 stud8 on PR and I can tell you that when playing the game is 4 or less people the value of big pairs goes WAY up. Especially when people will call you down with [censored] like T73. The game has been going a lot lately and it is much better than the PS, PP games. Its not even close either.
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Old 10-18-2005, 07:09 AM
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Default Re: Kings not strong in loose Stud/8 games

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In loose stud8 games a good rule to remember is NEVER GO HIGH. Its really that simple.

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What about aces? I usually complete with those, particularly in early position or if I have a low card.
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Old 10-18-2005, 01:23 PM
Notorious G.O.B. Notorious G.O.B. is offline
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Default Re: Kings not strong in loose Stud/8 games

I don't know, I mean, some people would tell you not to play when you've got an equity edge and there's extra money in the pot.
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:59 PM
Notorious G.O.B. Notorious G.O.B. is offline
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Default Re: Kings not strong in loose Stud/8 games

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I don't know, I mean, some people would tell you not to play when you've got an equity edge and there's extra money in the pot.

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I didn't mean to sound cocky here, it's just that I feel people are oversimplifying the situation because they're afraid to get into tough situations.
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Old 10-18-2005, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: Kings not strong in loose Stud/8 games

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I don't know, I mean, some people would tell you not to play when you've got an equity edge and there's extra money in the pot.

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I didn't mean to sound cocky here, it's just that I feel people are oversimplifying the situation because they're afraid to get into tough situations.

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No, I think its good to hear. There was a similar thread awhile back about playing Kings early in a SNG.

Earlier in the thread, betgo gave an example where there were 2 limpers and a jack completed. I think automatically folding there is wrong even in the loosest of games. Think your hand may be more playable now because you can leverage off that raise with a reraise and hopefully get a low hand to fold.
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Old 10-18-2005, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: Kings not strong in loose Stud/8 games

In low limit online stud/8 it is never worth completing with kings because of the fact that it rarely drives anybody out who was going to call anyway, and makes everyone chase against you. I usually limp in a multi-way pot and then get aggressive on 4th when hopefully a few of the lows brick as this usually does drive people out, but you need to be lucky with your position against the person who gets help with his low for this to work and also think about folding when someone catches an ace. Queens and below I just muck now from EP on 3rd because am sure they do not make enough money in the long-term and you may as well get involved with 345 on 3rd when everyone will stay with you to the river when you make your wheel!
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Old 10-18-2005, 05:10 AM
lane mcbride lane mcbride is offline
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Default Re: Kings not strong in loose Stud/8 games

I hate kings. they're one of the toughest low limit stud8 hands to play... other factors that I think about when I'm deciding to play kings (or how to play them) are:

-the size of the ante
-the liveness of your kings
-how many aces are out/ are there any aces left to act?
-how many low cards are out/ how many low cards are left to act
-your door card (if they are concealed) which may lead your opponents to believe you are going low
-your position
-I also like to keep good track of the 5's and the suits that are folded. those low draws that make straights and flushes happen all too frequently

-lane
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