Online 10-20 hand #3 - 88: skill-tilt or weak play?

nykenny · #1 07-08-2004, 02:13 AM

Hi all,

here is an semi-interesting hand. pls don't comment on my opponents open-limp and call with QQ [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. what do you think of my turn and river play, am i on skill-tilt?

Online Poker 10/20 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, Hero raises, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, MP2 calls, CO folds, BB calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks.

River: (7.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB
Main Pot: 10.25 BB, between Hero, MP2 and BB. > Pot won by Hero (10.25 BB).

Results in white below: 
BB shows Qh Qs (one pair, queens).
Hero shows 8s 8d (three of a kind, eights).
MP2 shows Ac 9d (high card, ace).
Outcome: Hero wins 10.25 BB.

astroglide · #2 07-08-2004, 02:22 AM

preflop: fine. it's 8-handed, so this is "virtually" mp2 in a full game.

flop: standard. overpair, lots of weird outs possible on the turn.

turn: god-awful check. you're letting anybody flush/gutshot you for free. this sets up an often bad call on just about any river.

ike · #3 07-08-2004, 02:24 AM

Why on earth are you checking the turn?

TXTiger · #4 07-08-2004, 02:31 AM

I'd bet the turn every time. Then bet the river assuming you don't get raised.

nykenny · #5 07-08-2004, 02:37 AM

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turn: god-awful check. you're letting anybody flush/gutshot you for free. this sets up a (often bad) call on just about any river.

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thanks. i agree 100%, even after the fact that i know now i was losing on the turn to QQ.

one question tho, if it bet, and LP raised or EP EP check-raised, would it be a clear fold at that time?

thanks,

Kenny

nykenny · #6 07-08-2004, 02:38 AM

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I'd bet the turn every time. Then bet the river assuming you don't get raised.

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what to do when raised on the turn, easy fold?

Nate tha' Great · #7 07-08-2004, 07:22 AM

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what to do when raised on the turn, easy fold?

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No, it isn't an easy fold. It might not be a fold at all. But that doesn't make checking the turn any better.

steveyz · #8 07-08-2004, 08:23 AM

I'm not sure it'd be a clear fold, but I'd probably fold a majority of the time. If I knew the raiser was overly aggressive (if the raise could be a semi-bluff with a single high heart or a single pair), I'd call it down.

nykenny · #9 07-08-2004, 10:19 AM

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I'm not sure it'd be a clear fold, but I'd probably fold a majority of the time. If I knew the raiser was overly aggressive (if the raise could be a semi-bluff with a single high heart or a single pair), I'd call it down.

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that's a lot of information to ask for [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

at the time of the hand, i was more concerned with the button who cold called on the flop. so i was thinking either the flop bettor or cold-caller could have a flush draw, but i was wrong.

anyway, i now agree with the consensus that i should have bet the turn. thx =)

Kenny

MrGo · #10 07-08-2004, 11:27 AM

ALl of you disagree with checking the turn, as do I. But what if there were 5 players to the turn, would you still bet, or check?