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Old 11-09-2005, 08:06 PM
Irieguy Irieguy is offline
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Default Re: KK laydown versus DoYouSeeWhy?

Ok, he has aces. Folding is still horrible.

Imagine how bad the fold is if there's a chance he doesn't have aces.

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Old 11-09-2005, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: KK laydown versus DoYouSeeWhy?

Dont ever fold KK preflop again in a short stack structure such as a party sng.
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Old 11-09-2005, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: KK laydown versus DoYouSeeWhy?

What a piece-of-crap play
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Old 11-09-2005, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: KK laydown versus DoYouSeeWhy?

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LOL this is the classic donk move with Aces.

A good player would insta-push with Aces here.

A great player might represent them by making the donk move... whether you believe him or not is up to you.

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I have seen posts before on very similiar k/k hands. Then seen posts where someone laid down aces to 3 or 4 ai's in front of them.

Both posters get railed for their actions.

Not being sarcastic here, just trying to figure this out. If you have two ai's in front of you, you call with aces without hesitation. But on the flip side, as in this hand, replies are saying the aces would try to get heads and would push to get isolation in to a heads up situation. (aces would have pushed here not single raised). Just don't understand why a 3 way pfai is okay in one situation, but people would avoid that in others.

Just interested to see the answers to this is all.

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Old 11-09-2005, 09:23 PM
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Default Re: KK laydown versus DoYouSeeWhy?

I'd push any day over the top. DYSW might be solid, but he's still fallable. If he has AA, oh well. I've paid him off. C'est la vie.
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Old 11-09-2005, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: KK laydown versus DoYouSeeWhy?

If DYSW doesn't have AA here it is just because he thinks you will put him on AA and fold. In that case he could have 72o.
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Old 11-09-2005, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: KK laydown versus DoYouSeeWhy?

Your unwillingness to consider the fact that he might have misclicked is a serious leak.
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Old 11-09-2005, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: KK laydown versus DoYouSeeWhy?

Irieguy summed it up best.
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Old 11-09-2005, 09:40 PM
The Don The Don is offline
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Default Re: KK laydown versus DoYouSeeWhy?

Good players will never do this with aces versus decent competition, it is way too transparent. Very easy push...
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Old 11-09-2005, 09:58 PM
benza13 benza13 is offline
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Default Re: KK laydown versus DoYouSeeWhy?

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Good players will never do this with aces versus decent competition, it is way too transparent. Very easy push...

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This is precisely why good players will do it sometimes as well, because they "never" would. That said, you should be pushing this because as others have said, he could do this with a lot of hands that aren't Aces, either representing them, misclicking or something like AK or QQ that could be best here.
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