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Old 11-11-2005, 05:23 PM
Obliky Obliky is offline
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Default Oh dear...thats not a good flop (6-max)

I was stumped with this one...

Villian is 50/6/1.6 after 50 hands..seems like a pretty typical player, hasnt done anything really stupid yet.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, BB folds, Hero ????

Was my flop bet ok?
Whats our plan for the rest of the hand?

Obliky

PS: Woot! 200 posts! And its only taken me nearly a year! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 11-11-2005, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: Oh dear...thats not a good flop (6-max)

I fold this hand. Small enough pot. 6max usually even more apt to play every paint card and or suited. Not worth calling to river to see his 72s or K2o
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Old 11-11-2005, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: Oh dear...thats not a good flop (6-max)

At the very least this is an attempt at a free card by someone with the A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (this seems to be the third thing semi-crappy players learn, after the check-raise and slowplaying aces), and with low aggression he's probably raising his soooted K-rag (or slowplayed aces).

It's such a small pot I'm not sure I want to see how this movie ends.
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Old 11-11-2005, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: Oh dear...thats not a good flop (6-max)

Stumped?

This fold is very routine and you should start laying it down without a second thought.
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Old 11-11-2005, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: Oh dear...thats not a good flop (6-max)

Folding would be wrong. I can't see how the other 2 posters find a 9.5SB pot small. You get 13.5:5 pot odds to call down or even better if you fold when another club falls or if villain checks etc. Which means you need to win this 27% of times max.
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Old 11-11-2005, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: Oh dear...thats not a good flop (6-max)

flop bet is standard.

wow, 50% vpip and aggr factor of 1.6? that means he's betting and raising A LOT! I'm tempted to call down from here. then again you only have 50 hands on him...
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Old 11-11-2005, 07:48 PM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: Oh dear...thats not a good flop (6-max)

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This fold is very routine and you should start laying it down without a second thought.

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Although I fold it, its hardly routine. If this is a player taking shots at people, we need to call down.
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Old 11-11-2005, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: Oh dear...thats not a good flop (6-max)

a fold here would be painful for your metagame, particularly at 6m.

add to that the decent chance he is doing this with nothing more than Qcx or Acx and its a harder choice than it initially looks.

i still fold tho
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Old 11-11-2005, 09:53 PM
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Default Re: Oh dear...thats not a good flop (6-max)

It pains me to see so many people advocating a fold here. At the very least he should call the raise and see the turn.
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Old 11-11-2005, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: Oh dear...thats not a good flop (6-max)

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It pains me to see so many people advocating a fold here. At the very least he should call the raise and see the turn.

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What's your turn plan?
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