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#11
10-22-2005, 11:46 AM
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Re: What hand(s) would you put me on here?
ahhh that would've been much better...
too bad that thought didn't come to mind before I posted.. but hard to imagine that he had QJh and not pay off the river, as a matter of fact I'm not really sure what the hell he had. that donk on the river made no sense. anyhow next decently interesting hand I come across I'll try that approach [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] 
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#15
10-23-2005, 12:29 AM
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Re: did I SPEW?
I would guess BB had AQ or AJ (at least thats what he was representing). If he did have AJ it is often advocated on these boards to play it like he did, check call, check call, bet and fold to a raise (minus the preflop 3-bet). If you are against someone you suspect to be a 2+2er it looks like a perfect spot to bluff raise the river to me.
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#16
10-23-2005, 06:08 AM
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Re: did I SPEW?
nice bluff, good place to try it.... it only needs to work a fraction (like 20%) of the time to be profitable.
If villain had a king or an ace it probably wouldna worked [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#17
10-26-2005, 01:15 AM
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Re: did I SPEW?
You're not spewing. Villain's river donk (coupled with flop and turn play) screams bluff. He had AK, AQ or KQ or a set and didn't raise the flop or turn with straight AND flush draws out against him? Zzzzz.
Raise with 32 or better, chuckle the 40% or so of the time that he folds, knowing he almost always had you beat, and sneer like Billy Idol when you drag the pot.
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#18
10-31-2005, 09:55 AM
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Re: did I SPEW?
[ QUOTE ]
I had J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] good bluff? spewing? just plain stupid? or did I represent a big hand clear enough and the river raise make sense. [/ QUOTE ] Overall the only hands that justify the way you played this from start to finish would have been AA, KK, AK though it was obvious from the start you had none of those or it wouldn't have been worth posting. JTs was vastly overplayed pre flop. The other streets were all fine and the rebluff on the river was good. Arguably obvious given his apparently odd bet which screamed bluffing a missed draw but it still takes balls to rebluff with nothing. I don't think there is any real way you can justify the cap preflop though, unless they both fold the flop a lot or are generally very weak tight post flop, which isn't what you stated. Don't lose sight however of the fact that you got lucky on the end - he obviously had squat, at best JT as well. In the circumstances the rebluff was good once he bet out given the odds you were getting on him folding but 9 times out of 10 he just check calls on the river with an ace, King or a flush (or even check raises the better of those). You weren't spewing chips (at least not from the flop onwards) but I think its a bit delusional to pretend he folded anything real on the end because you represented a big enough hand earlier. This smacks of a retrospective attempt to justify bad play preflop. Accept it was a mistake even though you got away with it in the end. Don't kid yourself that the cap was good and played any part in his later fold. You were lucky he had nothing but a busted draw by the end and you made a good rebluff. Good Luck Mackas
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#19
10-31-2005, 10:04 AM
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Re: did I SPEW?
mmm..
The capp preflop was for deception purposes and to mix it up a bit since I'm in position with a good multiway hand. but when both players gave up on the flop and turn I took the lead. Even if villain had checked the river and called the majority of the time, he only needs to fold 10% of the time to make this bluff ok. I'm quite sure villain had a hand in the end when he donked the river, it looks like one of those bet if I'm gonna call type of hands but wasn't willing to raise.
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#20
10-31-2005, 10:42 AM
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Re: did I SPEW?
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mmm.. The capp preflop was for deception purposes and to mix it up a bit since I'm in position with a good multiway hand. [/ QUOTE ] You're in position with a good multi way hand 3 handed . [ QUOTE ] but when both players gave up on the flop and turn I took the lead. Even if villain had checked the river and called the majority of the time, he only needs to fold 10% of the time to make this bluff ok. [/ QUOTE ] I tried to be clear I though everything was fine and well played after the flop. [ QUOTE ] I'm quite sure villain had a hand in the end when he donked the river, it looks like one of those bet if I'm gonna call type of hands but wasn't willing to raise. [/ QUOTE ] He'a worse player than you described then. I presume you meant to say that he would call a bet but not call a raise. If he has any sense and is dubious at this point he would be check calling then so we'll ahve to agree to disagree about what he ahd on the end then. Finally as is so often the case in these posts you have now provided a perfect justification (in your eyes) to your play on every street, even prefaced with a sceptical mmm to someone (me) who disagreed with one single action in the entire hand (the cap preflop). You are obviously sure that your play was correct in every detail so why bother post nevermind coyly pose the question "Did I spew chips?"? We all revel in your ingenious play of the hand and no, your bum does not look big in that (was that what you were hoping for?). [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] Vitriol aside, [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img], at least you tried to make the post more interesting by posing it from a different point of view. Good Luck Mackas
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