JJ makes top set on the flop....

Durs522 · #1 07-07-2005, 01:16 AM

Would you play this hand the same? Villian who called to the river has a VPIP of 21 and a river agg. of 1. Opponent who folds on the turn is LAG with a VPIP of 44

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, CO :#A500AF(Villian)/ calls, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO :#A500AF(Villian)/ calls.

Flop: (18.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Villian bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, Villian calls.

Turn: (12.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP3 checks, Villian checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds, Villian calls.

River: (14.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Villian bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.25 BB

NAU_Player · #2 07-07-2005, 01:20 AM

This is a perfect illustration of why PT stats are meaningless without reads. If villian is the type of player who pumps draws, then you may be in trouble. Otherwise, i think you see 2 pair more often than not.

edit: wow, i can read the board! 4 straight + 3 flush = you need to work on pairing the board on the river.

thegoose420 · #3 07-07-2005, 01:25 AM

i would play this exactly the same way. villian just got lucky, it happens. just be glad he didn't check/raise you on the river. (but hopefuly you would have checked behind him) next time he won't catch his river card and you will profit.

Durs522 · #4 07-07-2005, 01:26 AM

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This is a perfect illustration of why PT stats are meaningless without reads. If villian is the type of player who pumps draws, then you may be in trouble. Otherwise, i think you see 2 pair more often than not.

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I had been at the table about 50 hands when this hand came up. He seemed like a tight solid player. I watched him call rather than lead out when he was on the draw twice. However, he seemed like a tricky player who knew how to mix up his game.

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edit: wow, i can read the board! 4 straight + 3 flush = you need to work on pairing the board on the river.

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Yeah no hope on pairing the board since the river put out the 3 flush and 4 straight. This was my main reason for not raising the river. I didn't think I'd get called by a hand I beat.

Durs

SoftcoreRevolt · #5 07-07-2005, 01:27 AM

Yep. While I expect to win this hand even with that scary board I just call here too, since he's probably folding way too much when we are ahead and raising everytime we are behind.

btspider · #6 07-07-2005, 01:32 AM

ni hand.

don't use specific street AF numbers with a small sample.. just use the entire postflop AF #.

Durs522 · #7 07-07-2005, 01:38 AM

TY

Results - Vilian showed 88 MHIG.

Durs

xenthebrain · #8 07-07-2005, 06:47 AM

You cannot fold a set on the river for one bet getting 15 to 1.

Colonel Kataffy · #9 07-07-2005, 07:31 AM

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You cannot fold a set on the river for one bet getting 15 to 1.

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I should hope not.