ATs UTG flops top 2

ajmargarine · #1 12-24-2005, 04:33 PM

No reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed)

MP1 ($95.80)
MP2 ($112.90)
MP3 ($116.30)
CO ($51.50)
Button ($99.50)
SB ($99)
BB ($97.30)
Hero ($97.40)
UTG+1 ($191.06)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
Hero calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, MP3 calls $1, 2 folds, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $5, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds, SB raises to $10, BB folds, Hero raises to $25, SB raises to $50, Hero calls $71.40 (All-In), SB calls $46.40.

Turn: ($197.80) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($197.80) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $197.80

Isura · #2 12-24-2005, 05:58 PM

I'm not fond of the flop 3-bet without reads. I won't be surprised to see AA or TT just as often as T8 and A8. I prefer calling and reevaluating the turn. If he's passive, he probably will do a crappy job of getting money into the pot on the turn/river with a better hand. Conversely, if he has a worst hand, he will probably overplay it, as bad players like to do medium strength hands.

stealyourface · #3 12-24-2005, 06:00 PM

i like it.

your gonna see 108 and A8 here most of the time IMO.

#4 12-24-2005, 06:08 PM

I think your fine. Worst case senerio is that he has trip, which i doubt b/c he would of prob raised with TT, AA, and if his a fish 88 as well.

#5 12-24-2005, 06:09 PM

can you post the results or PM to me.

trumpman84 · #6 12-25-2005, 03:52 AM

I'm definetly getting my money in here,..if not on the flop, on a blank turn...sucks if you ran into 88 or TT...I think even the worst of players raise AA in the SB here.

#7 12-25-2005, 04:10 AM

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I'm not fond of the flop 3-bet without reads. I won't be surprised to see AA or TT just as often as T8 and A8. I prefer calling and reevaluating the turn. If he's passive, he probably will do a crappy job of getting money into the pot on the turn/river with a better hand. Conversely, if he has a worst hand, he will probably overplay it, as bad players like to do medium strength hands.

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who the heck completes w. so many limpers w. AA?

#8 12-25-2005, 05:33 AM

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I think your fine. Worst case senerio is that he has trip, which i doubt b/c he would of prob raised with TT, AA, and if his a fish 88 as well.

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88 is a standard raise from any position in 6max for me, and I'm no fish [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

#9 12-25-2005, 05:36 AM

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I'm not fond of the flop 3-bet without reads. I won't be surprised to see AA or TT just as often as T8 and A8. I prefer calling and reevaluating the turn. If he's passive, he probably will do a crappy job of getting money into the pot on the turn/river with a better hand. Conversely, if he has a worst hand, he will probably overplay it, as bad players like to do medium strength hands.

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I would have played it the way AJ did, but I like this line a lot. As a lower poster suggested I don't think AA or TT is likely at all but 88 is.

However, I can't see myself folding no matter what his later action is, so isn't it correct to just put him all-in? At least you will have seen more of his play to get better future reads..

wdeadwyler · #10 12-25-2005, 05:57 AM

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I think your fine. Worst case senerio is that he has trip, which i doubt b/c he would of prob raised with TT, AA, and if his a fish 88 as well.

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88 is a standard raise from any position in 6max for me, and I'm no fish [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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If everyone limps in and you raise 88 from the SB or BB (as a standard play), you are a fish. An aggro one, but a fish nonetheless. I guess that makes you a donkey?

As for the actual hand, sometimes you go broke with top 2. Most of the time you dont. FYI there is no reason to 3bet on this dry flop. Just call and lead the turn, and get the rest in there.