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Old 10-20-2005, 07:22 PM
Big Dave D Big Dave D is offline
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Default Trying too hard on the river?

Party Poker (7 handed) 5-10 blinds

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>. I call in early middle and Villain raises it 25 and I call. Villan is unknown, 24/5 PT stat after 50 hands, which doesnt mean much. He has 1k and I have him covered.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks. Villain bets half the pot and I call.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Villain checks. Obviously I was going for a check raise here [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
I bet 125 into a 175 pot. Villan raises to 300 striaght leaving himself 650.

I moved all-in. Insane?

gl

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Old 10-20-2005, 07:23 PM
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Default Re: Trying too hard on the river?

Why on earth would you ever try to get someone to lay down a 7 here?
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Old 10-20-2005, 07:32 PM
Big Dave D Big Dave D is offline
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Default Re: Trying too hard on the river?

My read of the hand was that he didnt have a seven. I kinda convinced myself, rightly or wrongly, that he had interpreted my bet as being weak and wanted to move me off the hand. If I move in he can't call unless he has a 7.

Admittedly it didnt feel great.

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Old 10-20-2005, 07:23 PM
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Default Re: Trying too hard on the river?

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I moved all-in. Insane?

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No, just stupid.
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Old 10-20-2005, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: Trying too hard on the river?

Elaborate?

River play to one side, how were the other streets and the intended c-r on the turn?

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Old 10-20-2005, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: Trying too hard on the river?

putting other guy on a hand without enough proof + courage=

money flusher

I strongly recommend you shift your gear down a bit or you will have to pay lotta speeding tickets.
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Old 10-20-2005, 08:34 PM
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Default Re: Trying too hard on the river?

I like the idea of the turn cr. The river though, when he raises just fold, that is such a value raise if I have ever seen one in my life. No one is making that with say Ace high in this game trying to make you think that he has a 7 you know? Don't expect to put use the "I know you know I don't have a seven so you are representing a seven with your miniraise but I know you would make that move on me so I reraise cause neither of us have a seven." Almost no one is thinking at this level at 5/10.
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Old 10-20-2005, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: Trying too hard on the river?

Dave, you've given in and started playing the game that's popular with all the kids these days. That's a major step! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Good luck, slow down with the bluffing and enjoy the low variance vacation.
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Old 10-21-2005, 05:28 AM
Big Dave D Big Dave D is offline
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Default Re: Trying too hard on the river?

Beset,

Good to see u...contrary to these two posted hands I am mostly playing wellish, despite there being areas where I find myself not having a clue. I'm not playing every hand like I'm Mike M on his "tablets". [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Even after only 3.5k hands this month its very clear the variance is much lower than PLO, especially in a ring game.

gl

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Old 10-21-2005, 05:36 AM
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Default Re: Trying too hard on the river?

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Good luck, slow down with the bluffing and enjoy the low variance vacation.

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True [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Even the most vicious downswing in NLHE will seem like a summer breeze compared to PLO.
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