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Old 08-13-2004, 12:20 AM
Ulysses Ulysses is offline
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $5 BB (7 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="C00000">BB ($1069)</font>
UTG ($1979.50)
MP1 ($295)
MP2 ($1412.75)
CO ($1000)
Button ($1255.45)
<font color="C00000">Hero ($977.75)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $10, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO calls $10, Button folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises to $90</font>, BB calls $80, UTG folds, CO folds.

Flop: ($200) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets $150</font>, BB calls $150.

Turn: ($500) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets $737.75 (All-In)</font>

Blah. Just stick it in?
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Old 08-13-2004, 01:06 AM
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I think checking this turn would be a mistake, I think betting anything less would be pointless, I think there are worse hands that will call your bet. Well played.
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Old 08-13-2004, 01:13 AM
AtlBrvs4Life AtlBrvs4Life is offline
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Default Re: 5-10 NL set

I'm curious to know why you raised 9xBB here. That seems big to me, but I don't play at this level.
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Old 08-13-2004, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: 5-10 NL set

Big pair, out of position. You have to raise this more than 4xBB. If he makes is 40-50, then people have great odds (and position), to call with lots and lots of hands in attempt to take his stack.

El Diablo likes his stack, so El Diablo should protect it.

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ps Also, if they will call it, why not?
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Old 08-13-2004, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: 5-10 NL set

I think a checkraise on the turn all-in could work too if you think he would bet if checked to on the turn. This way you have some bluffing edge from him as well, where the way you played it, he might call with a lower set, but will probably only call with a flush unless you have a crazy image. Since the ace comes, he can't put you on a flush and fold a lower one. Hope he called with 77 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] What are your reasons for the all-in bet on the turn?
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Old 08-13-2004, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: 5-10 NL set

Looks good. How often do you bet out on a flop like that?
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Old 08-13-2004, 01:50 AM
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Looks good. How often do you bet out on a flop like that?

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I don't know why you would ever check that flop unless you're playing against someone who is completely clueless.
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Old 08-13-2004, 01:54 AM
theBruiser500 theBruiser500 is offline
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What do you have to gain by betting it? There isn't much he could have. By checking it, you can try and win a small pot (but still extract more value than you would by betting out) from pocket pairs below kings. Also possible though unlikely but extremely profitable when it happens is letting someone catch lower set.
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Old 08-13-2004, 01:58 AM
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What do you have to gain by betting it? There isn't much he could have. By checking it, you can try and win a small pot (but still extract more value than you would by betting out) from pocket pairs below kings. Also possible though unlikely but extremely profitable when it happens is letting someone catch lower set.

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Put the preflop raiser on a range of hands. Which of these hands is he not going to bet a flop like this with? A monster or jackshit that he's given up on. If he comes out firing he could easily have JJ or AK or whatever

unless you're the type of player who checks a LOT when first to act and raising preflop then checking the nuts is a mistake and a signal to the strength of your hand.
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Old 08-13-2004, 02:00 AM
theBruiser500 theBruiser500 is offline
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"If he comes out firing he could easily have JJ or AK or whatever"

True, but if he checks the flop he is even more likely to have JJ. I will check JJ or QQ on this flop some of the time.
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