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Old 09-05-2005, 10:42 AM
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On the bonuswhores.com bonus grid, they say Party Poker 0.5/1 limit games clear thier bonii faster than 2/4 games.

Anybody have an idea why that is?
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Old 09-05-2005, 11:08 AM
AcmeSalesRep AcmeSalesRep is offline
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On the bonuswhores.com bonus grid, they say Party Poker 0.5/1 limit games clear thier bonii faster than 2/4 games.

Anybody have an idea why that is?

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A larger percentage of the hands at 0.50/1 reach 5BB than at 2/4. Since this is the point where hands become raked at both of these limits, 0.5/1 clears the bonuses faster than 2/4.

Obviously 1/2 clears them faster than either since you only have to reach 2.5BB before the rake starts eating away at the pot.

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Old 09-06-2005, 03:37 AM
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1/2 6 max clears the fastest
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Old 09-06-2005, 11:04 AM
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1/2 6 max clears the fastest

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Faster than NL 100? Every time the flop is seen, the hand counts as raked, since the pot only needs to reach $2 to be raked $0.10. The play may be a little bit slower in NL, but there are still over 83 hands per table-hour in short-handed NL 100.

During the August Bonanza race to accumulate raked hands in a 9-hour period, I was the leader for most of one day. I was playing NL 100.
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Old 09-06-2005, 11:06 AM
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Bonus grid may not account for the rake system going back to the way it used to be.

For the nl/pl games, you can get damn near 90% raked, which is a catch-22.

Clears fast, but it kind of sucks to have it broken down into nickel rake.
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Old 09-06-2005, 11:21 AM
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nickel raked pots dont count as raked. at least they dont count fully and im not sure which
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Old 09-06-2005, 11:29 AM
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For the nl/pl games, you can get damn near 90% raked, which is a catch-22.

Clears fast, but it kind of sucks to have it broken down into nickel rake.

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For a bonus whore, this doesn't suck. You can post and fold and make back more than the blinds in the NL 25 games. You will pay $0.35 in blinds every orbit and get 6+ raked hands in a full game. For added profit, don't fold AA. See my Basic Strategy for short-stacked NLHE, which was designed for clearing bonuses.

For a winning player, the 5% rake on tiny pots isn't worse than limit. Winning low stakes limit players often win about as much as their share of the rake or less, but low stakes NL players often win several times as much as the rake they pay. In low limit games, the rake can be 2.5-4 BB/100. In NL 100 on Party, the rake is about 4 PTBB/100 ($8/100), but many players win about 10 PTBB/100. Similarly, the low limit SNGs are raked 9%, but many players have a ROI of up to 30%.
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