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Old 11-15-2005, 11:24 PM
BatsShadow BatsShadow is offline
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Default This AQ 6max hand left me dazed and confused

This was within an orbit or so of sitting. The only read I have (which you can see from the hand) is that the table is frickin' loose. I mostly felt lost throughout this whole hand.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Since I never got reraised, I'm thinking I'm obviously ahead here...Until I get 3-bet.

Turn: (12.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Why in the ??? would he 3-bet the flop then check the turn? This confused me into betting. Looking back, this is the part of the hand I like the least.

River: (17.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, CO folds, Button calls.

Final Pot: 21.50 BB


I have to overcall here, right?
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: This AQ 6max hand left me dazed and confused

bet on the turn is FiNe IMO, depending on the opponent you might want to cap the flop, and I raise the river with top 2 pair.

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Old 11-15-2005, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: This AQ 6max hand left me dazed and confused

He is a stupid guy with a flush. Now I would cap that flop to maybe fold out CO. Then when you lead the turn and get CR by sb I think you can lay it down since it would be pretty obvious that he had the flush then.
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: This AQ 6max hand left me dazed and confused

I'd probably go ahead and cap the flop.

Folding the river would be terrible. I would raise.
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: This AQ 6max hand left me dazed and confused

is it at all possible that he had a set (or 2p) on the flop and 3bet to try to push flush draws out.

then the flush draw hits on the turn and he gets scared, so checks for information to see who is gonna come to life and whether he can call with his 10 outs. he has you on AK/AQ for sure, but he calls to see if BB is checkraising.

when noone else wakes up he knows his set/2P is good so comes out firing on the river?

i really think your hearing from anyone with a flush or wheel on that turn.... as did SB. that said i think his river bet indicates strength.

with the other players in you should probably value raise the river and hope to be shown A9 or A4 from SB
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: This AQ 6max hand left me dazed and confused

Someone else said raise the river as well. I'm no longer worried about SB at that point, but the thing that stopped me from raising was BB and Button calling the whole time. I was about certain one of them had a low flush. I guess that doesn't make sense though since neither raised the turn.
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: This AQ 6max hand left me dazed and confused

More calls for a raise. That's interesting because the thought really never crossed my mind.

I'm just starting to dabble in 2/4 and I hear that the more you move up, the more important value raises are. I'll have to keep that in mind.
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: This AQ 6max hand left me dazed and confused

Eskimo, I really dont see what the villain acomplishes by check calling the turn and donking the river if he has a two pair or a set on the flop . I think he would c/r the turn if he had a set or 2pair sicne he is second to last to act on the turn. i thik The hero shouldn't worry about the Sb on the River
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: This AQ 6max hand left me dazed and confused

If you're playing 6max, you must cap that flop.

(Barring special reads --&gt; special circumstances.)
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: This AQ 6max hand left me dazed and confused

i think the problem there is your assuming SB has a level of poker knowledge equivalent to your own
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