KJs in the monkey house

Dazarath · #1 12-14-2005, 07:44 PM

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I would say playing AK vs a blind steal is quite a bit different than the situation presented. If we were to lock this game down to 1 hand then the obvious play is to make it 4 bets. The problem is that this is never the case.

Case in point: Let's flip a coin.

YOu will have an edge of $0.01 on Every coin flip and the bet size will be $1,000,000 oh an every now and then I'll offer a bet size of $1.

When will you play? Everything is +EV

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I think you're misunderstanding my point. I was trying to say that using the logic "even fish get good hands occasionally, so we should fold" is faulty logic. If someone raises without looking at their cards, it's an easy 3-bet with AKo, even though their range includes AA/KK. By the poster's logic, we should fold AKo, because "even someone who raises in the dark gets aces and kings."

As for the situation you pointed out, it's a bit different than the situation that the OP has posted. The difference is that I don't have the bankroll to be making million dollar bets. I'm assuming the OP has the bankroll to play the stakes he's playing at. In limit hold'em (for the most part), there aren't situations where the variance is so high that it'll substantially increase our risk of ruin, assuming that we're properly bankrolled.

slavic · #2 12-15-2005, 12:38 AM

My spread was exagerated just to illustrate the point. The players you describe are going to offer fairly constant odds to you, but your entry price will vary. So is it better to take the same odds with a 6SB entry fee or a 2SB entry fee given that you'll be able to build the greatest equity post flop?

Dazarath · #3 12-15-2005, 12:44 AM

The EV varies with the amount of bets going in, though. I do agree that being able to come in for 1-2 SB is much better than 4-5 SB, but if 4-5 SB is the only option, and it's +EV, then the OP should be playing. Note, I never gave an opinion on the correct play for the situation. I was just pointing out the faulty logic used by one poster who also took it upon himself to insult the others in the thread regarding their intelligence.

slavic · #4 12-15-2005, 12:51 AM

I'm sorry I didn't mean to imply you are wrong in your thinking. I'm making a bit of an assumption that this hand is not atypical for the OP's table, and usually that is a safe assumption.

The guy insulting everyones intelligence I had already marked as a troll and I don't see his posts.