grrrrr...... KK hand

schwza · #1 09-01-2005, 01:23 PM

33.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

CO (t755)
Button (t955)
SB (t785)
BB (t1095)
Hero (t800)
UTG+1 (t120)
UTG+2 (t380)
MP1 (t1465)
MP2 (t740)
MP3 (t905)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t60, 2 folds, MP1 calls t60, 1 fold, MP3 calls t60, 2 folds, SB calls t50, 1 fold.

Flop: (t255) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t150, MP1 folds, MP3 calls t150, SB folds.

Turn: (t555) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets t695 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1250

wuwei · #2 09-01-2005, 01:28 PM

I can't fathom why you would want to check/fold the turn here.

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Villian's hand looks a lot like a wired pair, and most of those are way behind KK...

downtown · #3 09-01-2005, 01:29 PM

This is a really tough one. I think I would have pushed the turn, but that is with my having info that MP3 pushed into your check, which could be any hand sniffing out weakness, or it could be a 4 or 7. But what hands is villain overcalling with that include these cards? A4 or A7?

Did you plan to c/r a weak turn bet?

I hate it but I think I would call the push.

jeffraider · #4 09-01-2005, 01:31 PM

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I can't fathom why you would want to check/fold the turn here.

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Villian's hand looks a lot like a wired pair, and most of those are way behind KK...

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I wouldn't put him on a 7 enough of the time. I actually put him on A-high with this move. Call!

KingDan · #5 09-01-2005, 01:34 PM

I like the turn check a lot.

This is WA/WB so why lead. You may get him to bluff all his chips into you with Ace high/ another PP quite often.

I call when he pushes.

#6 09-01-2005, 01:35 PM

I think you've gotta call this. Just river a K if you're wrong.

#7 09-01-2005, 01:42 PM

That is a very interesting fold. What do you think he had? He didn't have 44 or 77, and if he is playing a 4 or a 7 with a raise, he is playing very loose and give him credit for hitting a beautiful flop. Also, if he hit a full boat, wouldn't he try to extract a little more from you. He knows that you couldn't have him beat, so wouldn't he bet for value? To add to this point, he moved in after you CHECKED! He knew that your play was weak. If he had a real hand, he would definately not go in like that (unless he is thinking "maybe he'll think I'm trying to buy it"). Even with AA, I think he would try to extract a little more from you. My guess is that he put you on AK or AQ and thought you didn't hit.

He could have anything from 55 to QQ in my opinion, or nothing at all and sensed that your check was weak. I think this is a definate call.

illegit · #8 09-01-2005, 01:44 PM

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I wouldn't put him on a 7 enough of the time. I actually put him on A-high with this move. Call!

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What i was gonna say; 4s and 7s, A kicker.

lorinda · #9 09-01-2005, 01:48 PM

I usually fold this without trying to work out what muck he's playing.

I'm usually in front when I fold it, but I'm not bothered, if there's a loose cannon like this at the table, I'll try to get him when I know I've got him.

Edit: That being said, you probably should have at least made a bet of some kind here.

Lori

wulfheir · #10 09-01-2005, 01:54 PM

What hands did the other 2 callers fold with? Of the 3 preflop callers they didn't all have overpairs. Some donkey is playing Axs and hit his kicker for trips.