I get min raised and dont have a clue on what to do.

Filip · #1 04-16-2005, 04:39 PM

I had no idea what to do after he reraises me on the flop so i called. It must have been the worst thing i could have done since it feels like i am showing him my seven.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

UTG+1 ($255.8)
MP1 ($123.85)
MP2 ($192.45)
MP3 ($184.3)
CO ($391.4)
Button ($194)
Hero ($177.2)
BB ($218.8)
UTG ($167.45)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
UTG raises to $4, 6 folds, Hero (poster) calls $3, BB calls $2.

Flop: ($12) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $8, Hero raises to $16, BB folds, UTG raises to $24, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($60) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $35, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $95

AllIn3High · #2 04-16-2005, 04:51 PM

If you're gonna take a stab at the pot make a real check-raise to something like $24 and then give it up if raised/called.

emil3000 · #3 04-16-2005, 04:54 PM

This hand is ridiculous. You're probably drawing to two outs, but that checkraise is so weak you can't be certain even of that. Your best move is probably to fold the minreraise, but really you should have either bet out or raised more.

BobboFitos · #4 04-16-2005, 06:39 PM

stop checkraising bad hands

Filip · #5 04-16-2005, 06:41 PM

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stop checkraising bad hands

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Fold preflop, or call and hope for a flus/str8 draw instead?

It seems i strongly underestimate the starting hands of my opponents.

Wouldnt he play AK-ATs about the same way?

Maybe i simply should do a week of nutpeddling.

BobboFitos · #6 04-16-2005, 06:47 PM

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stop checkraising bad hands

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Fold preflop, or call and hope for a flus/str8 draw instead?

It seems i strongly underestimate the starting hands of my opponents.

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No, the preflop call is fine, I mean checkraising is pretty bad on this flop.

Sure, you have top pair, but no kicker - basically, anything that can compete with your hand either has you slaughtered (higher 7 has you 3 outs to win, overpair has you 2 obvious outs to win, a 2 has you dead to 2 obvious outs) or is drawing nicely (overs + flush, give or take 9 to 15 outs)

Is this a min raise for value? is a worse 7 calling you down? it's not a raise for protection as you're pricing in draws to call. better hands might flat call as well (or, arguably should) because then you're stuck on the turn as so many cards "hurt," you dont know what's "safe," (IF you are ahead) and you had a bad one pair in a pot that is suddenly big and you still have another street to play.

As played just fold to the min reraise, you dont have odds for a 2 outer and you have almost no implied odds. Also he's not bluffing wiht a MIN RE raise, so dont be afraid you're somehow laying down the best hand.

I'd either lead out, check call, or check fold, depending on my opponents and my mood. I dont think checkraising is ever good here.

xorbie · #7 04-16-2005, 06:48 PM

PF call is ok, but not fantastic. SC don't play well OOP, but the price is cheap. Lead out this flop. If you get raised, fold. There's no way he has a 2, but he clearly doesn't believe you have one either. If you want to represent it, you really have to check/raise a lot more ($20 or up), and you have to know that he will lay down a bigger PP here to even try it.