Daniel Craig as the new James Bond.

Dominic · #1 12-29-2005, 10:37 AM

I'm one of the few who actually thinks Timothy Dalton was a great Bond. Manly, suave,cool under fire but not a cartoon. He was unfortunately stuck with some of the worst Bond storylines ever.

IMO it's Connery>Dalton>Brosnan>Lazenby>Moore.

And Craig looks like a good addition.

samjjones · #2 12-29-2005, 10:47 AM

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I'm one of the few who actually thinks Timothy Dalton was a great Bond. Manly, suave,cool under fire but not a cartoon. He was unfortunately stuck with some of the worst Bond storylines ever.

IMO it's Connery>Dalton>Brosnan>Lazenby>Moore.

And Craig looks like a good addition.

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Ditto. You put Dalton in "From Russia With Love", and public opinion of him would increase tenfold.

diebitter · #3 12-29-2005, 10:58 AM

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I'm one of the few who actually thinks Timothy Dalton was a great Bond. Manly, suave,cool under fire but not a cartoon. He was unfortunately stuck with some of the worst Bond storylines ever.

IMO it's Connery>Dalton>Brosnan>Lazenby>Moore.

And Craig looks like a good addition.

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Ditto. You put Dalton in "From Russia With Love", and public opinion of him would increase tenfold.

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I agree with the opinion that Dalton could have been an awesome Bond too.

I think Dalton and Brosnan were both quite good, though I prefer Brosnan, and were let down by the ridiculously complex and comic-book plotting that really wasn't worth following. All the films of both of these are worth watching though.

What do people think is the worst Bond film? It'd have to be 'Diamonds Are Forever' (how could they blow a Connery/Vegas film and make it look a dull place, huh?), or maybe 'View to a Kill' for me. I think.

samjjones · #4 12-29-2005, 03:47 PM

One more quick note. I watched "Closer" the other day, and am not convinced that Clive Owen would've been a horrible Bond.

Blarg · #5 12-29-2005, 04:44 PM

Diebitter -- Moonraker was my least favorite. Jaws, the whole thing was just so over the top cartoonish.

samjones -- Clive Owens looked like he could be a very good Bond to me. He had the knowing, sly cruelty in that gambling movie where he was the dealer, I forget the name. He could muster a hard but polished look. He could use some serious time in the gym to not look quite as much a jangly bunch of bones with his shirt off. He could have been quite good, I think. The last line of that gambling movie, and his look while it went on in monologue over his image, was prime Bond in what it got across: "I have the ability to make you lose."

samjjones · #6 12-29-2005, 04:47 PM

Owen looks like a great Bond until he opens his mouth. I think Craig will do a good job; as always, its up to the screenplay. FWIW, I think they should recast all of the major parts (new "M", new "Q", etc.), and for God's sake, please get Felix Leiter back into the mix.

mrkilla · #7 12-29-2005, 04:16 PM

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What do people think is the worst Bond film? It'd have to be 'Diamonds Are Forever' (how could they blow a Connery/Vegas film and make it look a dull place, huh?), or maybe 'View to a Kill' for me. I think.

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The worst one was the Unoffical Bond film, Never Say never again, even if it did have Sean Conery in it.

But how you can all but Dalton before Moore I will never understand, Moore goes #2 and its not close. Moore had some stinker plots too but he pulled them out.

Its funny that there going to remake Casino Royale. I wonder how its gonig to hold up on Screen and how true to the book it will be. THe new Bonds are very "modern tech" Casino Royale will be Quasi Futuristic Tech

samjjones · #8 12-29-2005, 04:21 PM

If you've read the books, it would probably be more clear to you why some like Dalton more than Moore. Moore was the "jokey" Bond, and looked and acted absolutely nothing like his literary counterpart. Also, Moore was never convincing to me in his fight scenes. The Moore/John Glen films were marred by ludicrous plots and set pieces as well. In fact, the only Moore film which I really like is "The Spy Who Loved Me"...which coincidentally, is absolutely nothing like the book.

mrkilla · #9 12-29-2005, 04:23 PM

Whelp Movies and there counter books are rarely the same. It was the 70's I guess...
I'm not this huge Moore fan, I just think hes better then Dalton, theres only one Bond it will always be Connery

Blarg · #10 12-29-2005, 04:50 PM

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If you've read the books, it would probably be more clear to you why some like Dalton more than Moore. Moore was the "jokey" Bond, and looked and acted absolutely nothing like his literary counterpart. Also, Moore was never convincing to me in his fight scenes. The Moore/John Glen films were marred by ludicrous plots and set pieces as well. In fact, the only Moore film which I really like is "The Spy Who Loved Me"...which coincidentally, is absolutely nothing like the book.

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Agreed again. Spy Who Loved Me was surprisingly decent in parts, especially for a Moore movie.

Moore made Bond a ludicrous franchise, in my opinion. He was so physically unconvincing that his movies became more and more about more and more absurd gadgets and things like boat chases that stunt men could do and went on forever. The rest was fluffed out with as cartoony a bunch of business as could possibly be found, and Moore coming in to chortle at himself on top of it. The real spirit of the Bond stories and character was chucked out completely. It was a miserable degrading of the franchise. One thing you could count on was for Moore to be unexciting.

Moore's version of Bond was kind of like the 60's t.v. show's version of Batman. Except much less fun.