continually running on empty

[ QUOTE ]
as to how i got so low, here are the hands after winning the pot in the second to last hand, giving me 1425:

65
96
98s
83
52
K9s
K4
T3
J9
32s
Q7

[/ QUOTE ]A real quick look through the hand records you provide a couple of posts down suggests you missed pushing opportunities with K9s and Q7o.

[ QUOTE ]
standard game, ended up on the bubble again but i was more aggro this game and was up for a while:

Seat 5: dollar45 ( $125 )
Seat 10: heret1k ( $730 )
Seat 8: lostin111 ( $1110 )
Seat 4: GobBluth72 ( $990 )
Seat 3: ifidawon ( $2255 )
Seat 1: rarebel ( $1955 )
Seat 9: bloomers43 ( $835 )
Trny:17675269 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 3s 3h ]
lostin111 folds.
bloomers43 folds.
heret1k raises [100].
rarebel folds.
ifidawon calls [100].
GobBluth72 folds.
dollar45 is all-In [95]
heret1k calls [25].
ifidawon calls [25].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, Js, 6c ]
heret1k checks.
ifidawon checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]
heret1k bets [30].
ifidawon calls [30].
** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]
heret1k checks.
ifidawon checks.

[/ QUOTE ]
This is the second instance of a fairly useless min-raise. I suspect you need to take a look at your post-flop bet sizes.

[ QUOTE ]
so when i'm lower in stack, loosen up my pushing standards, and if folded to me on button or late position, or in sb/bb, push with almost anything? seems to be the general idea. i was really surprised about 25s for example and 65o. aren't i likely to get called eventually before i get ITM? if so i'm probably beat with some of these cards.

the sng guide says aim to steal with 25% of blinds like Ax, pairs, K Q etc. but i think this assumes even stacks.

[/ QUOTE ]

You metioned in a previous post u also play ring games. I would assume by the size of your post flop bets that it is limit. Maybe concentrate on NL for a while as the betting patterns a very much different.
Your post flop play is where you are falling down you need to increse the size of your bets to at a min half the pot to pot and over. If this consumes more than half your stack then push. This is probably leaking you chips earlier on in the tourney as well which leaves you with less chips then u started with by level 4/5.
Your table image is another matter. You fold to any raise or big bet. Good players will be aware of this and i bet someone always min raises your BB or puts in a big bet after a check/small bet post flop.
However Looking at your hands I would have been bust with your 98s.
But sometimes that will hold up and now u have a better stack position.

The push with the 25o definetly you had a bigger stack. When u get to the position where u have a bigger stack always ask the smaller stack a question. Never give them free blinds u will regret it later.

Another scenario can arise which is sometimes great. If 2 big stacks go at it and you have a mid drawing hand get in there. They normally have high cards/pairs and if you hit a straight or flush you will treble your stack.

Derfinetly get harringtons books, Even though they are more geared towards longer live torneys they will definetly improve your game.

ok, here's the hands between 465 and 3BB for the first game, which went by pretty quick:

(i should have pushed both Ax and 88, i don't know what i was thinking there).

#Game No : 3086983184
***** Hand History for Game 3086983184 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17680641 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Thursday, November 24, 05:35:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 67100 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: niceguy3088 ( $3115 )
Seat 3: EarlyBird123 ( $955 )
Seat 6: DonnyOnions ( $1510 )
Seat 7: TCH21 ( $1960 )
Seat 9: heret1k ( $460 )
Trny:17680641 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 3h Ks ]
DonnyOnions folds.
heret1k: nb
TCH21 folds.
heret1k folds.
niceguy3088 calls [25].
heret1k: i guess
EarlyBird123 raises [50].
niceguy3088 calls [50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 5c, 7c ]
niceguy3088 checks.
EarlyBird123 bets [100].
niceguy3088 calls [100].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
>You have options at Table 66986 Table!.
niceguy3088 checks.
EarlyBird123 bets [250].
niceguy3088 raises [700].
EarlyBird123 is all-In [505]
niceguy3088 calls [55].
** Dealing River ** [ 4h ]
niceguy3088 shows [ 6h, 4c ] a straight, four to eight.
EarlyBird123 shows [ Qc, Ac ] a pair of aces.
niceguy3088 wins 1910 chips from the main pot with a straight, four to eight.
EarlyBird123 finished in fifth place.
EarlyBird123 has left the table.
Game #3086984833 starts.

#Game No : 3086984833
***** Hand History for Game 3086984833 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17680641 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Thursday, November 24, 05:36:50 EDT 2005
Table Table 67100 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: niceguy3088 ( $4070 )
Seat 6: DonnyOnions ( $1510 )
Seat 7: TCH21 ( $1960 )
Seat 9: heret1k ( $460 )
Trny:17680641 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
There is no Small Blind in this hand as the Big Blind of the previous hand left the table.
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 6h Ac ]
TCH21 folds.
heret1k folds.
niceguy3088 folds.
DonnyOnions does not show cards.
DonnyOnions wins 50 chips
Game #3086985164 starts.

#Game No : 3086985164
***** Hand History for Game 3086985164 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17680641 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Thursday, November 24, 05:37:00 EDT 2005
Table Table 67100 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: niceguy3088 ( $4070 )
Seat 6: DonnyOnions ( $1510 )
Seat 7: TCH21 ( $1960 )
Seat 9: heret1k ( $460 )
Trny:17680641 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 4s Jh ]
niceguy3088 calls [50].
DonnyOnions folds.
TCH21 calls [25].
heret1k checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, Kc, As ]
TCH21 checks.
heret1k checks.
niceguy3088 bets [50].
TCH21 calls [50].
heret1k folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
TCH21 checks.
niceguy3088 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]
TCH21 bets [100].
niceguy3088 folds.
TCH21 does not show cards.
TCH21 wins 350 chips
Game #3086986892 starts.

#Game No : 3086986892
***** Hand History for Game 3086986892 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17680641 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Thursday, November 24, 05:37:57 EDT 2005
Table Table 67100 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: niceguy3088 ( $3970 )
Seat 6: DonnyOnions ( $1510 )
Seat 7: TCH21 ( $2110 )
Seat 9: heret1k ( $410 )
Trny:17680641 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ As 6d ]
DonnyOnions folds.
TCH21 folds.
heret1k folds.
niceguy3088 does not show cards.
niceguy3088 wins 75 chips
Game #3086987327 starts.

#Game No : 3086987327
***** Hand History for Game 3086987327 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17680641 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Thursday, November 24, 05:38:13 EDT 2005
Table Table 67100 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: niceguy3088 ( $3995 )
Seat 6: DonnyOnions ( $1510 )
Seat 7: TCH21 ( $2110 )
Seat 9: heret1k ( $385 )
Trny:17680641 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 8h 8s ]
TCH21 raises [100].
heret1k folds.
niceguy3088 folds.
DonnyOnions folds.
TCH21 does not show cards.
TCH21 wins 175 chips
Game #3086988182 starts.

#Game No : 3086988182
***** Hand History for Game 3086988182 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17680641 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Thursday, November 24, 05:38:41 EDT 2005
Table Table 67100 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: niceguy3088 ( $3970 )
Seat 6: DonnyOnions ( $1460 )
Seat 7: TCH21 ( $2185 )
Seat 9: heret1k ( $385 )
Trny:17680641 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 9h Js ]
heret1k folds.
niceguy3088 folds.
DonnyOnions folds.
TCH21 does not show cards.
TCH21 wins 75 chips
Game #3086988490 starts.

#Game No : 3086988490
***** Hand History for Game 3086988490 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17680641 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Thursday, November 24, 05:38:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 67100 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: niceguy3088 ( $3970 )
Seat 6: DonnyOnions ( $1435 )
Seat 7: TCH21 ( $2210 )
Seat 9: heret1k ( $385 )
Trny:17680641 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ Jd 2d ]
niceguy3088 raises [300].
DonnyOnions folds.
TCH21 folds.
heret1k folds.
niceguy3088 does not show cards.
niceguy3088 wins 375 chips
Game #3086989175 starts.

#Game No : 3086989175
***** Hand History for Game 3086989175 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17680641 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Thursday, November 24, 05:39:14 EDT 2005
Table Table 67100 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: niceguy3088 ( $4045 )
Seat 6: DonnyOnions ( $1435 )
Seat 7: TCH21 ( $2185 )
Seat 9: heret1k ( $335 )
Trny:17680641 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 4d Qc ]
DonnyOnions folds.
TCH21 folds.
heret1k folds.
niceguy3088 does not show cards.
niceguy3088 wins 75 chips
Game #3086989541 starts.

#Game No : 3086989541
***** Hand History for Game 3086989541 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17680641 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Thursday, November 24, 05:39:26 EDT 2005
Table Table 67100 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: niceguy3088 ( $4070 )
Seat 6: DonnyOnions ( $1435 )
Seat 7: TCH21 ( $2185 )
Seat 9: heret1k ( $310 )
Trny:17680641 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ Jd 3c ]
>You have options at Table 66986 Table!.
TCH21 folds.
heret1k folds.
niceguy3088 calls [25].
DonnyOnions folds.
niceguy3088 does not show cards.
niceguy3088 wins 100 chips
Game #3086989928 starts.

#Game No : 3086989928
***** Hand History for Game 3086989928 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17680641 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Thursday, November 24, 05:39:39 EDT 2005
Table Table 67100 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: niceguy3088 ( $4120 )
Seat 6: DonnyOnions ( $1385 )
Seat 7: TCH21 ( $2185 )
Seat 9: heret1k ( $310 )
Trny:17680641 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to heret1k [ 7h 8h ]
heret1k is all-In [310]
niceguy3088 folds.
DonnyOnions folds.
TCH21 calls [210].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, 5h, Ad ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
heret1k shows [ 7h, 8h ] a pair of fours.
TCH21 shows [ Ah, 6h ] two pairs, aces and fours.
TCH21 wins 670 chips from the main pot with two pairs, aces and fours.
heret1k finished in fourth place.
heret1k has left the table.
Game #3086990538 starts.

[tigerite]

Ok, no SNGPT at first, to say how I would play them in-game:

K3o, I wouldn't hate a push there from the button.
A6o, this is just an absolute cast iron push.
J4o standard
A6o.. see the A6o above. It was blatant then, and is now.
88, easy easy push over the top. You're out of time.
J9o, I think this is a marginal push as well.
J2s, probably a fold.
Q4o, absolute blatant push, again.
J3o, I think I'd push this as well
87s, also a push, but pick any of the above ones first, as they are all better than this one, barring perhaps J9o, J3o and the first one K3o (which I'm least likely to push)

[Mr_J]

Jesus, it's your sample size that's killing you. 70 tournies is like a drop in the ocean.

[tigerite]

And now the SNGPT results

[ QUOTE ]

K3o, both have to call more than 15%. So it's more of a push than I thought.
A6o, unexploitable, as expected.
A6o, unexploitable, as expected.
88, his range has to be 66+,ATo+ and you have to be worse than a 46% dog against it, assuming he calls 100% of the time. So yep this is a re-push for me.
J9o, wasn't as marginal as I thought, ranges all 23%.
Q4o, unexploitable, as expected.
J3o, ranges have to be huge, 32%/38% for this not to be a push. It's definitely one.


[/ QUOTE ]

thanks, i'll look over those hands some more.

[axeshigh]

Your sample size is 60 tournies and you expect +/- bubble to be an accurate stat? I've had +2% over 2500 tourneys and now I'm 67% -8 over the last 500. Means absolutely nothing.

[FlyWf]

Tight early, aggressive late. Push, don't call.