QQ - flops set

Hattifnatt · #1 10-22-2005, 06:35 PM

I almost always play very aggresively on the flop when I flop a set (almost always bets out, 3-bet a raise etc. I want everything in the middle). But this might be a hand where the 3-bet is a stupid line to take!?

Villian is very tight (20% flop seen) and seems to only raise on the flop when he has a good hand.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Button ($337.80)
SB ($475)
BB ($341.18)
Hero ($738.45)
MP ($457)
CO ($448.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
Hero raises to $16, 1 fold, CO calls $16, 3 folds.

Flop: ($38) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $35, CO raises to $80, Hero...

Bukem_ · #2 10-22-2005, 06:40 PM

Call, cr all in. He may just push for you.

orange · #3 10-22-2005, 06:43 PM

Would villan play AA like this? How about AK?

Since this is a fairly drawless board, I would call/c/r all in the turn. If there was a 2-flush on board, I have no problem 3-betting.

Hattifnatt · #4 10-22-2005, 06:46 PM

I was a little afraid of AA, but if thats the case all the money gonna go in and there is nothing I can do. Had him on AK, 77, AQ maybe AJ/AT.

hockeyf · #5 10-23-2005, 01:41 AM

Call on the flop, there are like 0 really bad turn cards. Checkraise all-in on turn.

ajmargarine · #6 10-23-2005, 01:55 AM

Given stack sizes, a 3-bet here should lose everything except for AA. C/r turn looks like it would be real pretty. You could go for the big sexy, c/c turn and c/r all-in on the river? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] (joking)

Hattifnatt · #7 10-23-2005, 08:38 AM

I guess I screwed this up. Because of what hockeyf said, it's something like 0 bad turn cards.

And WHEN I 3-betted (which was wrong) I should had raised more I guess because the raise I made looks very fishy.

I think I should continue to play my great hands, flushes, straights, sets very aggresive on the flop but when the texture and opponent is like this one I will often take a different line.

Flop: ($38) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $35, CO raises to $80, Hero raises to $175, CO folds.

#8 10-23-2005, 10:09 AM

Hero pushes. The only thing that beats you is AA.

Hattifnatt · #9 10-23-2005, 10:48 AM

I tried the other line today, was this a good hand too to do this? I think a 3-bet is to prefer here. In the actual hand my line didn't matter for the result of course.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Button ($916.50)
SB ($513.90)
Hero ($390.50)
UTG ($160)
MP ($421.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
2 folds, Button calls $4, SB (poster) completes, Hero raises to $16, Button calls $16, SB folds.

Flop: ($44) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $40, Button raises to $80, Hero calls $40.

Turn [ 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
Hero checks.
Button bets [$50].
Hero is all-In [$290.50]
Button calls [$240.50].
** Dealing River ** [ 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
Button shows [ 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ] three of a kind, fours.
Hero shows [ K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ] three of a kind, kings.
Hero wins $783 from the main pot with three of a kind, kings

Converter got a bit wrong so I put some in manually.

fuzzbox · #10 10-23-2005, 12:31 PM

Call and lead any turn, if you call and he has AK, then he should often check behind).