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KQs river raise??
BB is loose(60ishVPIP) fairly passive preflop, aggressive postflop
UTG is very loose kinda spastically aggressive good river raise? plan if 3bet? PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (5 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls. Flop: (8 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls. Turn: (7 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls. River: (16 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font> |
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Re: KQs river raise??
i wouldn't do it. this really looks like a set or T9 too much for me. i mean i guess Q7 is possible, but is he betting any other hand on the flop that is going to bet/3-bet the turn?
if 3-bet i really think it's just a flat out marginal call probably between -0.2 and 0 EV. |
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Re: KQs river raise??
86, 87, 76, some Qx hands(likely with clubs)
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Re: KQs river raise??
so he's not 3-betting the flop with Qx[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] but he is bet/3-betting the turn? that seems a bit odd, but if he will do this with 86, 87, 76, then it seems very close. i admit that part of me simply does not want to raise because of getting 3-bet.
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Re: KQs river raise??
This also looks like a Qx that picked up an OESD on the turn. I've seen that played this way a lot. I think a river raise is not horrible, and may even be good.
Just a quick thinky think tells me that two pair isn't vastly more frequent here than a set or straight. But think about this. If he flopped a great hand, he would've gone for the turn check-raise, most likely. This suggests that the 7 improved his hand. That discounts the possibilities of a flopped set. However, for a river raise to be profitable, you need to be good enough of the time to cover the times you're 3-bet by a set or straight. That means you need to be beating over 2/3 of the hands. I doubt you are. |
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Re: KQs river raise??
I think this raise boils down to "Is he aggressive enough to 3-bet the turn with a mere 2-pair". If i didn't know this, then my standard would be to just call the river. I really think he's got a straight here. However, if you have the above read, I'd go ahead and raise/call a 3-bet.
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Re: KQs river raise??
yeah i like the river raise, call a 3bet.
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Re: KQs river raise??
Everybody raising this turn? I would probably have called turn and raised river. :/
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Re: KQs river raise??
nah i like a turn and river raise. but i am mental aggressive on the turn so i would say that [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Re: KQs river raise??
I dont like it, but im a pussy at being aggressive(Raising) rivers because getting 3bet sucks and its the river... so its like... a must call alot of the time.
However if you believe he will play this with 2pair etc then sure its good. Does look alot like set play though but you say hes aggressive. |
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