botched QQ

joker122 · #1 08-04-2005, 04:04 AM

no reads.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero caps, CO calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Turn: (5.70 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (5.70 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.70 BB

wackjob · #2 08-04-2005, 04:13 AM

Why did you bet the river and not the turn? The river cards completes an OESD(however unlikely because you hold 2 of the outs). If you think you are beaten on the turn(thus checking) I don't understand why you would then bet the river when a scare card came.

I think I would either: bet the turn, bet the river & call a raise, or check the turn, check the river & fold to a bet. Which one would depend on reads(in this case you have none) so I would probably go for option 2.

baronzeus · #3 08-04-2005, 04:19 AM

I'm not exactly sure of your logic here on not betting the turn. Can you descibe your thoughts here?

There are a lot of hands an unknown can 3bet here that we beat, 77-TT,AQ, AT. Sure, there are a lot that beat us too, AK, KK, AJ, JJ, KJs.

Given all this I bet/fold the blank turn.

joker122 · #4 08-04-2005, 04:28 AM

"I'm not exactly sure of your logic here on not betting the turn. Can you descibe your thoughts here?"

i didn't feel comfortable folding to a raise with out a read on the guy.