QQ flops undercards and get min-checkraised. I hate how I played it

vulturesrow · #1 08-02-2005, 05:58 AM

Basically I hate how I played every street on this hand. Critiques and suggestions please. No significant reads on villain.

PParty Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

Hero ($100.80)
BB ($53.40)
UTG ($62.15)
UTG+1 ($32.35)
MP1 ($79.40)
MP2 ($40.75)
MP3 ($74.20)
CO ($72)
Button ($34.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero (poster) raises to $2.75, 1 fold, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO calls $2.50.

Flop: ($8) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO raises to $14, Hero calls $7.

Turn: ($36) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $15, Hero calls $15.

River: ($66) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: $66

Results in white below: 
Hero has Qd Qc (two pair, queens and threes).
CO has Kh Jh (two pair, jacks and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins $66.

NYCNative · #2 08-02-2005, 08:40 AM

Reraise the flop minraise; value bet the river.

fimbulwinter · #3 08-02-2005, 08:49 AM

i really don't think this is that bad at all. I play the turn and river much the same except i fold to the turn bet on a drawless board, but generally im not seeing a lot of kjo in raised pots.

make preflop $4 and the hand plays much nicer.

fim

fuzzbox · #4 08-02-2005, 09:06 AM

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i really don't think this is that bad at all. I play the turn and river much the same except i fold to the turn bet on a drawless board, but generally im not seeing a lot of kjo in raised pots.

make preflop $4 and the hand plays much nicer.

fim

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Care to explain the part about making it $4 preflop making it nicer ?

GrunchCan · #5 08-02-2005, 10:47 AM

Everyone seems to think this hand was played basically well, but could be tweaked. Is this a standard WA/WB line when we're OOP?

But I would have lead the turn for about $40. Is this bad?

swolfe · #6 08-02-2005, 10:52 AM

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Everyone seems to think this hand was played basically well, but could be tweaked. Is this a standard WA/WB line when we're OOP?

But I would have lead the turn for about $40. Is this bad?

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i think the turn lead is good if we've seen this guy raise the flop on the draw before.

TheWorstPlayer · #7 08-02-2005, 10:59 AM

Leading the turn is another good option. Probably I'll play about 60/40 between bet/fold turn and c/c turn. Depends a lot on the aggression of the opponent.

#8 08-02-2005, 11:03 AM

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Everyone seems to think this hand was played basically well, but could be tweaked. Is this a standard WA/WB line when we're OOP?

But I would have lead the turn for about $40. Is this bad?

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I think the thing about this hand that is difficult is that Villain is in position and after his miniraise only has a little over $50 left. If you reraise to $28, as one person suggested, can you really get away from the hand for only $25 more? If you lead for $40, you obviously just have to lead for his last $50 or so, right? That's why I think I prefer to play this hand passively. If you put him all in on the flop, he might call, but most decent players are folding there. (I don't think we were given any reads, so I'm giving Villain credit for at least having some sense.) I guess I'm trying to find a way to get maximum value from the hand without losing everything to a set. That's why I like the poster's play. He basically got about as much as he could have out of the villain without risking being all in against a set. I think that just about any other play puts you all in (or rather Villain, but same difference) with just an overpair. I like to keep this pot fairly small, which Hero did.

TheWorstPlayer · #9 08-02-2005, 11:05 AM

He has 60 left. You can lead for 20 and fold for 40 more.

Drizztdj · #10 08-02-2005, 08:54 AM

I seem to run into AA or a set each time I see a board and min-raise like that.

Maybe I'm gun-shy here, but a min-raise lately has meant more strength then just TPGK.