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Old 09-27-2005, 05:52 PM
gonores gonores is offline
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Default Old Dynasty-style preflop question.

Bellagio 80-160 game from the weekend.

Decent playing UTG+1 raises. Folded to CO who accidentally mucks red fives face up (the face up part was an accident, not the mucking). I'm in the big blind with....black 55. I know it's sorta stupid, but it's sorta interesting too, since it scrapes on the intrinsic set value of small pairs in this spot. Fold or call?
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Old 09-27-2005, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: Old Dynasty-style preflop question.

I would fold. I would probably also fold if I didn't see the other 5s exposed.
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: Old Dynasty-style preflop question.

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I would fold. I would probably also fold if I didn't see the other 5s exposed.

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Only one of these sentences I agree with.

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Old 09-27-2005, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: Old Dynasty-style preflop question.

LOL,,,LOL,, you are a much better player than mehttp://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/...cons/crazy.gif
crazy I'm guessin' you did the right thing,,lol
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Old 09-27-2005, 05:59 PM
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Default Re: Old Dynasty-style preflop question.

I would fold, but if I decided to come in, I'd much rather 3-bet than call. You give yourself the best chance to win this pot by taking initiative early. Still, I think 3-betting and calling are both far inferior to folding.
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Old 09-27-2005, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: Old Dynasty-style preflop question.

fold.

I remember a situation simlar to this happened at the TROP when I was playing the pink game.

I was running hot and I mean red hot catching the cards hitting the flops I was crushing the oppossositon it was one of those nights where I had AT

the flop came T 3 5 turn and river were A A.

I was hot.

UTG accidentanly folded a 7 face up. I look down and see 77, i'm like duh FOLD.

Friggin flop hit a 7.

I was like "damnit!!"
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Old 09-27-2005, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: Old Dynasty-style preflop question.

I would fold given no chance of hitting a set. More interesting question is if the exposed cards were 65. I can't understand why Haakee would fold even if nothing was exposed.
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Old 09-27-2005, 07:12 PM
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I would fold given no chance of hitting a set. More interesting question is if the exposed cards were 65. I can't understand why Haakee would fold even if nothing was exposed.

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Because you're getting 2.33:1 and are playing pretty much for set value. You need to make roughly 4 BB postflop those times that you hit a set, and it's doubtful that you'll be able to do it heads up (though it's obviously a little more likely if you were sure that the BB would come along).
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Old 09-27-2005, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: Old Dynasty-style preflop question.

I'd probably fold also even if no cards were exposed. I'm out of position against a guy hwho plays well and, given it's 80-160 is probably aggressive. If I knew he was A-B-C, or very passive, or otherwise easy to push around, it would be a different story.
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Old 09-28-2005, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: Old Dynasty-style preflop question.

Andy expressed exactly why I would consider folding 55 without exposed cards. I doubt there's much of an EV difference in calling or folding.
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