22- KK what to do?

[Doc]

Tried for c/r on flop, is is hindsight or just bet out?

Turn: I feel I am behind a lot here, but after the failed c/r, bet out?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP3 (t800)
CO (t695)
Button (t1050)
Hero (t785)
BB (t535)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t965)
UTG+2 (t770)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
[color=#666666]2 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]UTG+2 raises to t30</font>, [color=#666666]4 folds</font>, Button calls t30, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to t90</font>, [color=#666666]1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls t70, Button calls t70.

Flop: (t312.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t312.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, Button checks.

River: (t312.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets t175</font>, UTG+2 folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: t487

Thanks for any replies,

Doc

[Killer Man's Son]

I'm betting out on the flop here. Giving a free card and letting the Ace hit could mean disaster.

Bet the flop. Maybe not much, but you ought to make it wrong for them to chase their ace.

Do you really think you can get away with a c/r when you reraised preflop?
Make a bigger reraise preflop, bet the flop.

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I'm betting out on the flop here. Giving a free card and letting the Ace hit could mean disaster.

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Agreed

[1C5]

Holy forum overload, slow down on the new posts. Let one get answered before posting 6 others.

[patrick dicaprio]

i dont like the way you played this. why not bet the flop? there are enough possibilities that you might get called. you arent THAT unhappy if you get folds, but leading out on this flop for 1/2 the pot or so may make them think you are trying to steal it with a missed hand or something like TT or AK. i know what yuo were trying to do here but one thing that people forget here i think is that if they have absolute zero you arent getting any more chips and if they have a little something you can usually get a call.

Pat

[pergesu]

If you want to c/r the flop, you can't reraise preflop. You reraised two players, out of position, and it was a small raise that really looks like it really wants a call. They're not going to bet any flop for you unless they hit it hard.

Of course reraising preflop is the correct play, so you shouldn't consider going for a c/r in the first place. "Giving up a free card and letting the ace get there is a disaster." Blah blah..it's not so bad, if you hadn't reraised preflop, checking would be fine. The problem is is that nobody will possibly bet the flop for you, so you're giving a free card to two opponents on a coordinated board, which is not a good idea considering your hand isn't a monster.

Finally, the line you wanted to take absolutely kills your action. Let's say one of your opponents decides to take the bait and bets the flop, any amount, and then you pop him with a check-raise. You just announced that you have a KILLER hand, and he's got no shot of winning. In fact you allow him to play perfectly against you - lay down anything worse than your kings, and come over the top with anything better (because let's face it, no 22er would fold even J7 here).

Considering you checked the flop, your line is fine. Once they check through on the turn, it's very likely you still have the best hand, so a small bet is cool.

[Hendricks433]

Yuck. I hate giving free cards. KK is only 1 pair. Gotta bet the flop.

[bruin]

Make it 120 to go preflop. Bet 2/3 pot on flop.