what makes a great sng player, take 2

[lacky]

there was a pissy post last night using this title to basicaly say we chase all the great players away. But I gave a serious reply, i liked it, i spent the time to type it, then it got locked. So i'm reposting it dammit

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being a great sng player isn't a mystery. You wanna know? I'll tell you. To be great you have to.....

1) be able to know how your opponent thinks and reacts in different situations.

2) be able to base your play on what you know about their play, and what you know they know about your play.

3) be right in your decisions based on that knowledge significantly more often than you are wrong.

the hard part isn't figuring out what great play is, the hard part is doing it.

[cha59]

nice post!

It is still possible to see what the "great" posters had to say in the archives, people do not take advantage of them enough. It is a shame that people are downright mean to posters, the obvious example is Greg Raymer being chases away because every post he made after winning the championship was that he was overweight and lucky. It is a shame, but there are still a lot of the great posters here, and lots of good players, but you have to sift through a lot of posts to find anything really helpful anymore. I agree though Lacky, you just have to put in the time to improve.

[zipppy]

I like your list, Lacky...a lot.

I know when I was a new player, I was very focused on playing my cards correctly. This is important, and is usually good enough to beat lower stakes games (ie 22 and below). Making the next step and tracking your opponents is crucial for both moving up buyins successfully, or for crushing your current level more successfully.

Great post!

edited and re-edited for crappy proofreading and spelling.

>>>ZIPPPY

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1) be able to know how your opponent thinks and reacts in different situations.

2) be able to base your play on what you know about their play, and what you know they know about your play.

3) be right in your decisions based on that knowledge significantly more often than you are wrong.

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Do you mean this in a general way: it is important to know how poker players think and how they react to different situations; or do you mean this to be player specific: it is important to know how player X thinks and how player X reacts to different situations.

I'm sure both are valuable. But, I wonder which you were emphasizing.

[Scuba Chuck]

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the hard part isn't figuring out what great play is, the hard part is doing it.


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I can't tell you how often that my hunch is right while I'm playing. Sometimes I'm wrong, and that's usually what keeps me from following my hunch. Unfortunately, I still pound myself against the pavement, not following my hunch enough.

[spliff]

I find it difficult to focus on opponents when 4 tabling.

And Pokertracker doesn't seem to help much as the stats vary as the tours progress ?

[pooh74]

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I find it difficult to focus on opponents when 4 tabling.

And Pokertracker doesn't seem to help much as the stats vary as the tours progress ?

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overall #s give you "clues"

[lacky]

I am refering to how the spacific player involved in the hand will react. There is a huge difference between how your basic russain, your basic 2+2 student, or your basic guy drinkin and havin fun will play out a hand. To lump them all as "players" is just another way of ignoring them and playing your cards.