Stars never again pt 2.

[KrmtDfrog]

that was you? sorry about that beat i put on ya. i felt a bit guilty about that for almost an hour.

[imported_leader]

[ QUOTE ]
that was you? sorry about that beat i put on ya. i felt a bit guilty about that for almost an hour.

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't worry about it. I blame PokerStars

[Amid Cent]

Me for myself I with this agree completely.

[Eder]

[ QUOTE ]
So I log onto Stars to play some 6 max limited hold them.

MP Raises, CO calls, folded to me in BB and I fold 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

The board falls K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. MP shows A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and takes down the pot. CO mucks 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

What are the odds of this exact hand happening? It has to be something like a trillion-to-one. Me for myself saw enough....

[/ QUOTE ]

I think you need be more agressive preflop...

[VinnyTheFish]

NH! – but here is more proof (this sample is from last night only)
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter

Button (t3920)
SB (t2810)
Hero (t2795)
UTG (t2425)
UTG+1 (t2115)
MP1 (t1245)
MP2 (t14935)
MP3 (t3230)
CO (t20284)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t50, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2795</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, Button folds, SB calls t2745.

Flop: (t5740) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t5740) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t5740) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> RIVERED THE STR8!

Final Pot: t5740

Results in red below: <font color="red">
SB has 8c Ad (two pair, tens and eights).
Hero has Js Kc (straight, jack high).
Outcome: Hero wins t5740. </font>
<font color="blue">===================================== ============= </font>
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) converter

MP3 (t5045)
CO (t6960)
Button (t2355)
SB (t9140)
BB (t3720)
UTG (t3090)
UTG+1 (t950)
MP1 (t3205)
Hero (t3645)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t425</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls t275.

Flop: (t925) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t750</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1500</font>, BB calls t750.

Turn: (t3925) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t1795 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t1720 (All-In).

River: (t7440) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t7440

Results in red below: <font color="red">
BB has 2h 3h (one pair, threes).
Hero has 7d Ad (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins t7365. BB wins t75. </font>
<font color="blue">===================================== ============= </font>
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter

MP1 (t5415)
MP2 (t2790)
MP3 (t350)
CO (t18640)
Button (t14665)
Hero (t10590)
BB (t290)
UTG (t3120)
UTG+1 (t6677)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t350</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t350, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1250</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t900.

Flop: (t3050) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t3050) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t795</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t2600</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t9340</font>, Button calls t6740.

River: (t21730) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: t21730

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Kd Ad (one pair, aces).
MP3 has 3c 7h (high card, ace).
Button has Qc As (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins t21730. </font>============================================= ===== </font>
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter

MP3 (t12680)
CO (t10665)
Button (t17995)
SB (t30195)
BB (t2850)
UTG (t3515)
UTG+1 (t12435)
MP1 (t10250)
Hero (t7365)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t200, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls t300, BB calls t200, MP1 calls t200.

Flop: (t1600) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t1000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2600</font>, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 calls t1600.

Turn: (t6800) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t4365 (All-In)</font>, MP1 calls t4365.

River: (t15530) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t15530

Results in red below: <font color="red">
MP1 has Ad Qc (one pair, aces).
Hero has 8d Ah (two pair, aces and eights).
Outcome: Hero wins t15530. </font>
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) converter

MP2 (t9843)
MP3 (t12567)
CO (t3480)
Button (t22360)
SB (t8551)
Hero (t22740)
UTG (t11315)
UTG+1 (t20223)
MP1 (t3829)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t3804</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls t3404.

Flop: (t7408) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t7408) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t7408) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t7408

Results in red below: <font color="red">
Hero has Qd Jd (two pair, queens and jacks).
MP1 has Tc Td (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins t7408. </font>

AND – the granny mommy of them all!!
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (9 handed) converter

MP2 (t29315)
MP3 (t52846)
CO (t108398)
Button (t46858)
SB (t3375)
Hero (t24910)
UTG (t18169)
UTG+1 (t53384)
MP1 (t26889)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t1200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t2400</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls t1200, UTG calls t1200.

Flop: (t6600) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t15694 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t24414</font>, Hero calls t22435 (All-In).

Turn: (t69143) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t69143) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t69143

Results in red below: <font color="Red">
Hero has 4s 5d (full house, fives full of fours).
UTG has Kc Kd (two pair, kings and fives).
MP1 has Qs Qc (two pair, queens and fives).
Outcome: Hero wins t67164. MP1 wins t1979. </font>
NH! – but here is more proof (this sample is from last night only)
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter

Button (t3920)
SB (t2810)
Hero (t2795)
UTG (t2425)
UTG+1 (t2115)
MP1 (t1245)
MP2 (t14935)
MP3 (t3230)
CO (t20284)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t50, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2795</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, Button folds, SB calls t2745.

Flop: (t5740) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t5740) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t5740) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> RIVERED THE STR8!

Final Pot: t5740

Results in red below: <font color="red">
SB has 8c Ad (two pair, tens and eights).
Hero has Js Kc (straight, jack high).
Outcome: Hero wins t5740. </font>
<font color="blue">===================================== ============= </font>
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) converter

MP3 (t5045)
CO (t6960)
Button (t2355)
SB (t9140)
BB (t3720)
UTG (t3090)
UTG+1 (t950)
MP1 (t3205)
Hero (t3645)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t425</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls t275.

Flop: (t925) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t750</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1500</font>, BB calls t750.

Turn: (t3925) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t1795 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t1720 (All-In).

River: (t7440) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t7440

Results in red below: <font color="red">
BB has 2h 3h (one pair, threes).
Hero has 7d Ad (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins t7365. BB wins t75. </font>
<font color="blue">===================================== ============= </font>
PokerStars Game #2893672744: Tournament #14115988, Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2005/10/25 - 21:39:54 (ET)
Table '14115988 28' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Letitride10K (5415 in chips)
Seat 2: Rawhide343 (2790 in chips)
Seat 3: coconeely (350 in chips)
Seat 4: goccia49 (18640 in chips)
Seat 5: Rick Charger (14665 in chips)
Seat 6: VinnyTheFish (10590 in chips)
Seat 7: Gx_Vega (290 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: RPlace74 (3120 in chips)
Seat 9: michael f (6677 in chips)
VinnyTheFish: posts small blind 100
Gx_Vega: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to VinnyTheFish [Kd Ad]
RPlace74: folds
michael f: folds
Letitride10K: folds
Rawhide343: folds
coconeely: raises 150 to 350 and is all-in
goccia49: folds
Rick Charger: calls 350
VinnyTheFish: raises 900 to 1250
Gx_Vega: folds
Rick Charger: calls 900
*** FLOP *** [Ac 5s 6d]
VinnyTheFish: checks
Rick Charger: checks
*** TURN *** [Ac 5s 6d] [9d]
VinnyTheFish: bets 795
Rick Charger: raises 1805 to 2600
VinnyTheFish: raises 6740 to 9340 and is all-in
Rick Charger: calls 6740
*** RIVER *** [Ac 5s 6d 9d] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
VinnyTheFish: shows [Kd Ad] (a pair of Aces)
Rick Charger: shows [Qc As] (a pair of Aces - lower kicker)
VinnyTheFish collected 20480 from side pot
coconeely: shows [3c 7h] (high card Ace)
VinnyTheFish collected 1250 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 21730 Main pot 1250. Side pot 20480. | Rake 0
Board [Ac 5s 6d 9d Jc]
Seat 1: Letitride10K folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Rawhide343 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: coconeely showed [3c 7h] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 4: goccia49 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Rick Charger (button) showed [Qc As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: VinnyTheFish (small blind) showed [Kd Ad] and won (21730) with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: Gx_Vega (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: RPlace74 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: michael f folded before Flop (didn't bet)
<font color="blue">===================================== ============= </font>
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter

MP3 (t12680)
CO (t10665)
Button (t17995)
SB (t30195)
BB (t2850)
UTG (t3515)
UTG+1 (t12435)
MP1 (t10250)
Hero (t7365)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t200, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls t300, BB calls t200, MP1 calls t200.

Flop: (t1600) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t1000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2600</font>, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 calls t1600.

Turn: (t6800) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t4365 (All-In)</font>, MP1 calls t4365.

River: (t15530) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t15530

Results in red below: <font color="red">
MP1 has Ad Qc (one pair, aces).
Hero has 8d Ah (two pair, aces and eights).
Outcome: Hero wins t15530. </font>
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) converter

MP2 (t9843)
MP3 (t12567)
CO (t3480)
Button (t22360)
SB (t8551)
Hero (t22740)
UTG (t11315)
UTG+1 (t20223)
MP1 (t3829)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t3804</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls t3404.

Flop: (t7408) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t7408) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t7408) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t7408

Results in red below: <font color="red">
Hero has Qd Jd (two pair, queens and jacks).
MP1 has Tc Td (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins t7408. </font>

AND – the granny mommy of them all!!
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (9 handed) converter

MP2 (t29315)
MP3 (t52846)
CO (t108398)
Button (t46858)
SB (t3375)
Hero (t24910)
UTG (t18169)
UTG+1 (t53384)
MP1 (t26889)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t1200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t2400</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls t1200, UTG calls t1200.

Flop: (t6600) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t15694 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t24414</font>, Hero calls t22435 (All-In).

Turn: (t69143) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t69143) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t69143

Results in red below: <font color="Red">
Hero has 4s 5d (full house, fives full of fours).
UTG has Kc Kd (two pair, kings and fives).
MP1 has Qs Qc (two pair, queens and fives).
Outcome: Hero wins t67164. MP1 wins t1979. </font>

[OldLearner]

It actually must have taken you some time and effort to create your post, especialy with all the [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] inserted as you did.

Thankfully your post is clever, original and articulate, so the effort wasn't wasted.

[ghostface]

[ QUOTE ]
6 max limited hold them

[/ QUOTE ]

All I see available is 6 max Hold Em. Instruct me where to find the hold them games.

So confused.

[Guthrie]

I can't believe you folded 94o for one lousy bet.

[SomethingClever]

BigBiceps is UTG.

<font color="white"> Okay, BigBiceps isn't really UTG. But this must be what happened to him at some point. </font>

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $3 (All-In), Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks.

Turn: (4 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP folds.

River: (6 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

Results:
SB has Qd 9d (flush, queen high).
Hero has 4d Ad (straight flush, seven high).
UTG has 7s 7c (four of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins 14 BB.

[4_2_it]

Get a better pattern recognizer and stay away from Stars. How many times will you people get burned before you learn?

OHHH THE HUMANITY!!!