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Old 10-06-2005, 02:59 AM
Kyle Kyle is offline
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Default A Thin value bet on the river?

First let me give you a little history. I have been pounding on the SB pretty bad. I think I have raised like the last 4 times he has open completed and won every pot. The last time he open completed he tried to make a stand but folded to my flop three bet. He is defintely loose and bad but not overly agg or passive.

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I am on the BB with QJs. He completes and I raise. He calls

Flop comes Q K J all spades. The action goes Check, bet, C/R, Three bet, call

Turn comes a 5 spades putting a four flush on the board. He donks into me and I call.

River comes a non spade ace. He checks.

Can I bet this hand for value or should I just check behind here????
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Old 10-06-2005, 03:06 AM
wackjob wackjob is offline
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Default Re: A Thin value bet on the river?

There is no value here. Your 2p just got owned by a flush or a straight. Thank the poker Gods that you get a free showdown.
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Old 10-06-2005, 03:12 AM
ggbman ggbman is offline
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Default Re: A Thin value bet on the river?

check it
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Old 10-06-2005, 03:35 AM
StellarWind StellarWind is offline
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Default Re: A Thin value bet on the river?

I'm going to guess that he isn't happy with you right now [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

If you bet you must call the checkraise. Cornered animals are dangerous and you have provoked him pretty badly. He could easily lash out with a bluff.

His anger and your unending aggression also create motive and opportunity for a value checkraise. Furthermore there is a fair chance that your turn call has convinced him that his small spade is no more than checkcall material. Or he could be checkcalling because he thinks he just lost his two pair to aces up.

Throw in four parts to Broadway and all the 2-pair hands that beat you and I can't find a bet.

Another advantage of checking is he has to show. You really need to know where his head is right now.
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