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Old 09-27-2005, 12:45 AM
whittiphil whittiphil is offline
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Default Please tell me a 7 buyin swing in one day is ok!!! (HELP!)

Holy [censored], please guys, should I keep playing NL50 or move back down to NL25.

At NL25 I won for like 14PTBB/100 over 13k hands.

Today at NL50, here are my stats.

815 hands
VPIP 17.67 (way tighter than usual)
Money lost - $347 (!!!)
Wtsd - 24.56%
W%@sd - 34.62% (WHAT THE [censored] IS HTIS??)
PF Raise - 4.42% (more passive than usual, I got scared).

AA has lost $56
KK has lost $33
QQ has lost $69
JJ has lost $4.50
TT has lost $10

I have got a set 6 times, it has cost me $23 for the privilege, the w@sd for that 33%

High Card is a loser
one pair is a loser
two pair is a loser
set is a loser
straight is a loser
flush is a loser (-$6)
Full house and 4 of a kind are the only hands I have won money on time.

Is this the biggest downswing you've ever seen? I know it can't be, but I need to vent this very hard.
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Old 09-27-2005, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: Please tell me a 7 buyin swing in one day is ok!!! (HELP!)

I've had bigger downswing though not in a day. I tend to stop myself from playing once I drop more than 5 buyins as I'm not sure I'm emotionally in control at that point.

tilt is like being drunk, you sometimes don't realize it when it happens.

I say move down for a while. get your confidence back, even if its like 5 buy ins at 25NL, then come back if bankroll allows it.
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Old 09-27-2005, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: Please tell me a 7 buyin swing in one day is ok!!! (HELP!)

yeah, I'm gonna do that. My bankroll is still like $2500, so I can stay at the 50s... but I don't feel right emotionally.
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: Please tell me a 7 buyin swing in one day is ok!!! (HELP!)

Wow, I thought I had it bad! I, too, just moved up to $50NL 6max, and have lost a significant amount of cash. It was all due to horrible, horrible, play on a select few hands though when I lost my stack.

You should probably go back to $25NL to build back up your roll, since $350 is a pretty significant amount.

Post some of your hands here where you lost your stack, let's see if you were playing poorly like I was. The higher stakes really freaked me out when I moved up a couple days ago, and seriously hindered proper play.
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: Please tell me a 7 buyin swing in one day is ok!!! (HELP!)

No not ok, you need to stop playing. These are the kind of tilts that can destroy a bankroll.
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: Please tell me a 7 buyin swing in one day is ok!!! (HELP!)

I've had some devastating (to me, anyway), but nothing like this, I don't think.

P.S. - $2500? That's what I keep to 4-table the $100s. The hell do you need with 50+ buyins?
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: Please tell me a 7 buyin swing in one day is ok!!! (HELP!)

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I've had some devastating (to me, anyway), but nothing like this, I don't think.

P.S. - $2500? That's what I keep to 4-table the $100s. The hell do you need with 50+ buyins?

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its just 8 days at this rate.

but seriously, he should play with how much he feels comfortable with.
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: Please tell me a 7 buyin swing in one day is ok!!! (HELP!)

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its just 8 days at this rate.

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Hehe.

I built this bankroll from scratch, so everytime I lose some of it, it hurts. That's why I play so within my bankroll. I'm switching back to NL25... and I'm staying away from poker for a few days.

Some of the hands I got stacked on:

This one is the one I stopped playing on... when I realised I was actually playing bad because of the losses before that

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed) converter

MP ($58.40)
Button ($58.05)
SB ($51.55)
Hero ($53.90)
UTG ($49.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, MP folds, Button calls $2.

Flop: ($6.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, Button calls $6.

Turn: ($18.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, Button calls $12.

River: ($42.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero calls $32.90 (All-In), Button calls $32.90.

Final Pot: $108.55

Hand 2:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

MP ($0)
CO ($22.80)
Button ($14.70)
SB ($50.95)
BB ($30.45)
Hero ($50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $9</font>, Hero calls $48.50 (All-In), SB folds, BB calls $20.95 (All-In).

Turn: ($85.95) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($85.95) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $85.95

Hand 3:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Button ($39)
SB ($85.10)
BB ($81.80)
UTG ($44.85)
Hero ($62.20)
CO ($40.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, UTG calls $2.50.

Turn: ($8.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, UTG calls $5.

River: ($18.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $15</font>, Hero calls $15.

Final Pot: $48.75

Hand 4:
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Hero ($52.40)
UTG ($14.30)
MP ($130.86)
CO ($23.76)
Button ($49.31)
SB ($26.12)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.50. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.50, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, CO calls $2, SB folds.

Flop: ($8) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $14</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $42.90 (All-In), MP calls $35.90.

Turn: ($107.80) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($107.80) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $107.80

There's a few where I lost money - what do you think?
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: Please tell me a 7 buyin swing in one day is ok!!! (HELP!)

I think your raises and reraises preflop are too low.

especially in the AA hand.
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Old 09-27-2005, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: Please tell me a 7 buyin swing in one day is ok!!! (HELP!)

ok, 6-7BB instead of 4-5? And reraises like 10bb?
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