76s blind defense

dave44 · #1 08-16-2005, 01:51 PM

Villain is at like 60/15 after about 20 hands fwiw.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button bets, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero...

I think a few different actions can be taken here.

Surfbullet · #2 08-16-2005, 02:08 PM

I fold the flop - insufficient odds to draw to 4-outer, not closing the action.

I'd probably donk the turn. I want to c/r, but when villain fires again into 2 players on the turn he is more likely to have us beat, since he'll often check behind weaker hands. We wouldn't want a check-through on such a drawy board and there's no indication that either player has a better hand than ours now.

Surf

PokerBob · #3 08-16-2005, 02:11 PM

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I when villain fires again into 2 players on the turn

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utg folded the flop

PokerBob · #4 08-16-2005, 02:13 PM

i think i try a c/r here, as IMO he's firing again with just about anything hoping you just peeled on the flop.

Surfbullet · #5 08-16-2005, 04:44 PM

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I when villain fires again into 2 players on the turn

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utg folded the flop

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Whoops. Yeah, i go for the c/r here often.

Surf

dave44 · #6 08-16-2005, 05:27 PM

You may be right about a flop fold, but I'm giving myself 4 outs to the straight, 1.5 to the backdoor flush, and maybe 2 outs to a pair.

Lost Wages · #7 08-16-2005, 05:41 PM

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I fold the flop - insufficient odds to draw to 4-outer, not closing the action.

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Hero has plenty enough to call the flop. If he turns a 5 he need only collect 2BB. Any spade gives him a flush draw and a 9 or T gives him an 8 out straight draw. The villian's looseness means he likely to get payed off. The fact that he's not closing the action is somewhat mitigated by the better odds he receives if UTG calls.

Lost Wages

wackjob · #8 08-16-2005, 05:56 PM

I c/r the flop & lead the turn.

goofball · #9 08-16-2005, 07:02 PM

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You may be right about a flop fold, but I'm giving myself 4 outs to the straight, 1.5 to the backdoor flush, and maybe 2 outs to a pair.

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Just 2?

captZEEbo1 · #10 08-16-2005, 07:38 PM

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You may be right about a flop fold, but I'm giving myself 4 outs to the straight, 1.5 to the backdoor flush, and maybe 2 outs to a pair.

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Just 2?

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He's giving partial outs, b/c villian could have a bigger pair already (AK AA, etc), so they are not worth full outs b/c they won't necessarily win.