#1
|
|||
|
|||
flopped bottom two pair - ace on board. How\'s the flop line?
No reads - 18 person (2 table) tourney
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) converter UTG (t1230) UTG+1 (t1440) MP1 (t1450) MP2 (t1540) MP3 (t1440) CO (t2510) Button (t800) SB (t1590) Hero (t1500) Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. UTG calls t20, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t40</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t40, Button calls t40, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t20, UTG calls t20. Flop: (t210) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t180</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t360</font>, CO folds, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t700</font>, MP2 calls t340. Turn: (t1610) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t800 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: t2410 |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Re: flopped bottom two pair - ace on board. How\'s the flop line?
I shove preflop. Check/folding half your stack just plain sucks.
|
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Re: flopped bottom two pair - ace on board. How\'s the flop line?
[ QUOTE ]
I shove preflop. Check/folding half your stack just plain sucks. [/ QUOTE ] yeah, I thought about pushing...would prob have gotten called too. sigh. |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Re: flopped bottom two pair - ace on board. How\'s the flop line?
That's rough, I probably would push the flop, at the same time you've got a strong holding and the smaller reraise makes it that much easier to get his whole stack in on the turn. I think both lines are OK, but the way it worked out I kick the cat and fold.
|
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Re: flopped bottom two pair - ace on board. How\'s the flop line?
I think you played this hand fine, it's just too bad that your hand got counterfeited. Unless he's just some sort of kamikaze idiot that can't let go of JJ on a terrible flop, you have to be beat. One thing you might have tried is to just call the min-reraise to make sure that the next card off isn't terrible for your hand--which it unfortunately was. This could have saved you that last reraise. On the other hand, had you gotten all in on the flop and he had a decent A, then you would get all the money in with what was most likely a huge favorite, only to be sucked out on once again. So, I guess the glass if half full and you were able to play on.
|
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Re: flopped bottom two pair - ace on board. How\'s the flop line?
Easy easy easy easy push on the flop after you get raised.
|
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Re: flopped bottom two pair - ace on board. How\'s the flop line?
[ QUOTE ]
I shove preflop. Check/folding half your stack just plain sucks. [/ QUOTE ] i can't believe no one noticed this. seriously, i think viable lines are bet-push or bet-call (and then c/r a-i on the turn). betting and putting in the little reraise is kinda lame, imo. i think bet-push is best, as Ax has a lot of outs against you, so checking the turn to him is kinda scary. also, i'd fold pre-flop. |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Re: flopped bottom two pair - ace on board. How\'s the flop line?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] I shove preflop. Check/folding half your stack just plain sucks. [/ QUOTE ] i can't believe no one noticed this. seriously, i think viable lines are bet-push or bet-call (and then c/r a-i on the turn). betting and putting in the little reraise is kinda lame, imo. i think bet-push is best, as Ax has a lot of outs against you, so checking the turn to him is kinda scary. also, i'd fold pre-flop. [/ QUOTE ] fold PF w/ those odds? As to pushing to the raise, I agree that I should have shoved. I was gonna push to lead on the turn, but... |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Re: flopped bottom two pair - ace on board. How\'s the flop line?
you're not really getting odds nearly as good as you think. if you flop 1 pair your hand is garbage even though it might be a winner if you went to showdown. and more people just means there are more people to flop sets when you flop 2 pair.
|
#10
|
|||
|
|||
Re: flopped bottom two pair - ace on board. How\'s the flop line?
I actually agree, I would fold preflop but hey.
|
|
|