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Old 06-30-2005, 12:37 PM
turnipmonster turnipmonster is offline
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In what universe are these hands folding?

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Old 06-30-2005, 01:23 PM
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I fold this preflop very easily against a guy with 5% pfr (and i also fold this in general).

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IMO this is a mistake. HU, I'd dump it, but not with the overlay present here. IMO it is a very bad one to fold it "in general", as you say. Each situation is different and should be treated as such.

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I agree that each situation is different. Thats why i fold this in general. But in this situation what would you do?
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Old 06-30-2005, 01:25 PM
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with a 9 high flush draw, if you're going to see the turn, you should raise to fold out the Ts, Js, and maybe Qs

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I don't see these ever folding.

I fold pf FWIW, and like the rest of the hand.

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Old 06-30-2005, 01:29 PM
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Perfect all streets. Lots of thin close spots I think you took the best routes in each, including preflop.
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Old 06-30-2005, 01:33 PM
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In what universe are these hands folding?

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Old 06-30-2005, 01:46 PM
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Does anyone like raising the flop to get anyone holding a none-spade T, J, Q, or A to fold (in case Hero has the best hand)?
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Old 06-30-2005, 03:09 PM
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But in this situation what would you do?

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I would call and not think twice about it.
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Old 06-30-2005, 03:12 PM
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I like the flop call instead of a raise. Any single spade bigger than you, higher 8, or K will probably cold call 2 anyway.

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I disagree. The T, J and maybe Q are gonna have a tough time here IMO. Would you really feel good about making that call, when it is possible (maybe even likely) that if you get there you're gonna lose anyway?
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Old 06-30-2005, 03:15 PM
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with a 9 high flush draw, if you're going to see the turn, you should raise to fold out the Ts, Js, and maybe Qs

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Apparently I'm in the minority, but I agree with Josh here. Maybe I'm a special case, but if I am holding the T, J or Q here, I am NOT going to be happy about calling 2 cold on the flop, especially when there is a distinct possibility that I am not even going to be good if I get there. Hero needs to protect his weak made hand and his weak draw. IMO the raise is good.
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Old 06-30-2005, 03:26 PM
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I disagree. The T, J and maybe Q are gonna have a tough time here IMO. Would you really feel good about making that call, when it is possible (maybe even likely) that if you get there you're gonna lose anyway?

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I personally would feel bad about calling in that spot, but we aren't talking about you and I, we are talking about the donkeys in the 5/10 6 max.

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