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Old 06-05-2005, 10:14 AM
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Look, just because Boone got them to the world series doesn't mean it was a good trade, k?
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Old 06-05-2005, 10:15 AM
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Old 06-05-2005, 10:17 AM
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Some people will never learn.
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Old 06-05-2005, 10:56 AM
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At the time the Claussen-Boone trade was made Ventura was washed up. Boone was a dud for the Yankees, but Claussen has not fulfilled his promise. And yes, Cashman would make the deal again in a heartbeat just for Boone's pennant winning homer.
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Old 06-05-2005, 11:24 AM
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At the time the Claussen-Boone trade was made Ventura was washed up. Boone was a dud for the Yankees, but Claussen has not fulfilled his promise. And yes, Cashman would make the deal again in a heartbeat just for Boone's pennant winning homer.

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Yeah, except, you're completely wrong.

Aaron Boone, 2003, Pre-ASB: .782 OPS (in the GAB)
Robin Ventura, 2003, Pre-ASB: .715 OPS

So the Yanks traded a promising young lefty away for a marginal increase in their production from their 3B?
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Old 06-05-2005, 12:03 PM
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I'm not extolling the merits of Aaron Boone as a ballplayer. Except for his homer against the Sox, he was horrible. But Robin Ventura was done. He shot his load in 1999 with the Mets and was on a downward slide. The Yankees were getting a player 6 years younger and Claussen has yet to become a bona fide starter. The Yankees are notorious for over-hyping their farm prospects. Again, Cashman would make the trade again today if he to do it over. And these are all the words that 3 lightweights like Ventura, Boone, and Claussen deserve.
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Old 06-05-2005, 12:15 PM
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I just don't understand how Robin Ventura was "washed up" when, at the time the deal was made, Boone was only slightly better than Robin.

I also don't understand how Ventura "blew his load" in 1999 when he was nearly as good in '02 as he was in '99.

Just sayin'...
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Old 06-05-2005, 12:32 PM
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He must have been pretty close to washed up in 2003...in '04 he batted .243 as a part time scrub for LA...and now he's out of baseball.
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