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Old 12-19-2005, 11:38 AM
bernie bernie is offline
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for not controlling their game.

Apparetly a player sat berating one of the dealers. The dealer just ignored it and kept the game moving as it really wasn't anything new from this player. This player also does it to a variety of dealers, not just the one in question. One of the players(who played in the room about a whole month) asked why they'd take that treatment. Dealer just kind of shrugged it off as they were still keeping the game moving and doing their job. Knowing the dealer, they would've said something had the abuse been aimed at a player instead of themselves.

The player asking the question goes to the floor and reports the dealer for not running his game right. Dealer gets written up. Wtf?

What a friggin' [censored]. Why not file a complaint about the abusive player? Why not back the dealer? I couldn't believe it when I heard about it. I was like, 'well Mr. dealer, since someone is kicking you down, I'll help them kick a little more. Should some blood start spurting, I've got some salt for that...' They got a kick out of that. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I told the dealer I'd put in a glowing report if it'd counteract the complaint.

The abusive players has since been banned indefinitely after a couple more incidents. This banning was long overdue.

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Old 12-19-2005, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: Dealer gets written up...

This is very situation dependant. One of the reasons dealer abuse rises to throwing objects at the dealers in some areas is the dealer won't call the floor whne a player gets out of line because it costs money if it loses a hand. When a dealer chooses to ignore an abusive player to keep the game going it fosters an abusive environment and is unfair to the dealers that follow as most abusive players will continue to be more abusive until someone tells them to stop. If swearing at the dealer gets no reaction they will move on to throwing cards, if this gets no reaction they will move up to throwing racks, if this gets no reaction they will throw their drink and so on.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:17 PM
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This is very situation dependant. One of the reasons dealer abuse rises to throwing objects at the dealers in some areas is the dealer won't call the floor whne a player gets out of line because it costs money if it loses a hand. When a dealer chooses to ignore an abusive player to keep the game going it fosters an abusive environment and is unfair to the dealers that follow as most abusive players will continue to be more abusive until someone tells them to stop. If swearing at the dealer gets no reaction they will move on to throwing cards, if this gets no reaction they will move up to throwing racks, if this gets no reaction they will throw their drink and so on.

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I agree. However, the first complaint should be about the abusive player, not the dealer. What's it going to help just to reprimand a dealer, especially if it's one of your better dealers overall in the room, while the abusive player is still sitting in the game after the dealers down? The dealer likely won't be back that night to that table so it really doesn't help the situation at the table at all. Unless the dealer deals to that table again.

In this case, pretty much all the dealers tolerated it for one reason or another. So if you're going to write one dealer up, you may as well write them all up. However, when this dealer finally said something, he did get other dealers and some regular players backing him.

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Old 12-19-2005, 02:23 PM
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Unfortunately, the unwritten rules in many casinos seems to be that you can abuse the dealers all you want, but as long as you're polite to the floor people (the guys with the power to do anything), you're okay. That attitude needs to change. There should be zero tolerance for abuse directed at anyone.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:25 PM
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This is very situation dependant. One of the reasons dealer abuse rises to throwing objects at the dealers in some areas is the dealer won't call the floor whne a player gets out of line because it costs money if it loses a hand. When a dealer chooses to ignore an abusive player to keep the game going it fosters an abusive environment and is unfair to the dealers that follow as most abusive players will continue to be more abusive until someone tells them to stop. If swearing at the dealer gets no reaction they will move on to throwing cards, if this gets no reaction they will move up to throwing racks, if this gets no reaction they will throw their drink and so on.

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I've never seen people throw their chip racks at a dealer. This really happens? What does the dealer usually do to deserve this?
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:33 PM
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This is very situation dependant. One of the reasons dealer abuse rises to throwing objects at the dealers in some areas is the dealer won't call the floor whne a player gets out of line because it costs money if it loses a hand. When a dealer chooses to ignore an abusive player to keep the game going it fosters an abusive environment and is unfair to the dealers that follow as most abusive players will continue to be more abusive until someone tells them to stop. If swearing at the dealer gets no reaction they will move on to throwing cards, if this gets no reaction they will move up to throwing racks, if this gets no reaction they will throw their drink and so on.

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I've never seen people throw their chip racks at a dealer. This really happens? What does the dealer usually do to deserve this?

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They miss their draw that wouldn't have been good anyways...

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Old 12-19-2005, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: Dealer gets written up...

I've only had objects thorn at me once - a seat change button hit me square in the chest. The player was ejected instantly and not allowed back for 90 days. He's been very nice ever since.

Saturday night I had an agitated Omaha player (redundant, I know) call me a "dirty mother f**ker" when I didn't bring a low card on the river. I told him "You drop another f-bomb and you'll be asked to leave....sir."

As for the OP, it's too bad the floor didn't back up the dealer in this situation. On hte other hand, dealers shouldn't put up with douche bags insulting them either. Nip the abuse in the bud so it doesn't continue or escalate.
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:20 PM
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Which dealer was it?
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