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Old 12-07-2005, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: $109... Did I just min-raise? \"No more drugs for this man...\"

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I really can't see anyone calling this minraise that isn't willing to commit to the 450, especially at a 109.

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Why not? This is the entire point of the thread. And why do people think 109's are these poker playing meccas? People are still awful.
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: $109... Did I just min-raise? \"No more drugs for this man...\"

Yea, you're right. A player that already has 50% of their stack in the middle, will definitely call another half of their stack, but will be scared off by 250 more.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:23 PM
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Default Re: $109... Did I just min-raise? \"No more drugs for this man...\"

thx.

I think the flat call on the flop is pretty bad regardless of his cards so I wouldn't rule out much.

Partly I was just being a devil's advocate, there is very very little difference here.

What about the meta game, and how 1 or 2 people just noted you up for minraising with the nuts? I'm just figuring out the $109s and maybe I overestimate them, but don't Bonofone, ImCastleMan, and John Hurst sit at every single $109 24-7?
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: $109... Did I just min-raise? \"No more drugs for this man...\"

Heh not quite every single one.. and I think Bonafone dropped down just lately to the $55s. Only seen John in a couple $109s so far, but I do play at strange times compared to the US. Castleman is in quite a lot, though.
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: $109... Did I just min-raise? \"No more drugs for this man...\"

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thx.

I think the flat call on the flop is pretty bad regardless of his cards so I wouldn't rule out much.

Partly I was just being a devil's advocate, there is very very little difference here.

What about the meta game, and how 1 or 2 people just noted you up for minraising with the nuts? I'm just figuring out the $109s and maybe I overestimate them, but don't Bonofone, ImCastleMan, and John Hurst sit at every single $109 24-7?

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Like I said, I've done this like once in my life, so I don't think the metagame thing makes a difference at all. Plus I know who the aforementioned players are and obviously would make the necessary adjustments. I haven't seen bonafone in a while, I see John Hurst a lot and I see CastleMan a lot too (he's SevnFigures now right?).
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Old 12-07-2005, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: $109... Did I just min-raise? \"No more drugs for this man...\"

I guess castleman's sn is public, because the only place I could have learned it is here. AFAIK, that's it.

I guess I haven't seen Bonofone for a week or so. He used to be at about 1/2 my tables.

I guess this means I see you a lot too.
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: $109... Did I just min-raise? \"No more drugs for this man...\"

I probably see both of you two a lot, too, but don't realise it.

z32fanatic is in quite a few as well - his name on here is pretty easy to guess [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:47 PM
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Alright, I think the general consensus here is it doesn't really matter. Fair enough. I think that the min raise is a bit better than pushing for the reasons I stated, but probably by a negligible amount.

He turned the straight. Sucker was getting burned no matter what.
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