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Old 12-04-2005, 09:27 PM
renodoc renodoc is offline
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Default How to extract $$$ with a set.

New to this forum. If the bro who made the laydown here wants to PM me about Lasik, please do.

This is a $10-$20 blind NL game, ave stack is about $3000, some have up to $10K.

Raised pot to $60 called 4 ways and I am in MP. The BB folds. I have 44 and the flop comes A-T-4. Beauty. The SB bets into me $120, I count to 20 and then call. Others fold.

Turn is inconsequential. He bets out $300.

What is your play here? I raised to $800, he went into the tank and then folded.

How does the board play this? My read on him is either AT or AK. Given the hesitation, more likely he had two pair.
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Old 12-04-2005, 10:03 PM
Big_Jim Big_Jim is offline
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Default Re: How to extract $$$ with a set.

This is a super read dependant hand.

Against many players, I would just raise the flop and build the pot. Some guys just can't get away from AJ right there. If the board is two-tone, I would be much more inclined to raise.

Against more thinking players, I think waiting for the turn is a good option, although it does kind of stink like a slowplay.

I think AK has a fairly easy fold here, but I doubt AT gets away all that often.
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: How to extract $$$ with a set.

With your raise, your hand becomes fairly obvious on the turn if you have a reasonable image. A decent player will most likely muck their Ace. The board is very good for you and he is either drawing near dead or has you drawing near dead.

I'd either raise the flop and hope AK comes along thinking you have a weaker Ace or just call the turn and raise river.
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Old 12-04-2005, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: How to extract $$$ with a set.

Raise more often.
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Old 12-05-2005, 02:18 AM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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Default Re: How to extract $$$ with a set.

There's about zero chance he's folding AT here.

AK's not generally folding here either.

I think he had something weaker.

BTW, you played it fine.
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Old 12-05-2005, 03:05 AM
RikaKazak RikaKazak is offline
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Default Re: How to extract $$$ with a set.

4 way, and you think AK isn't folding here? hmmmmmm, I think you're wrong.
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Old 12-05-2005, 03:57 AM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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Default Re: How to extract $$$ with a set.

It's all moot, since the guy who's betting out is betting so small that it's practically impossible he has AK.

(He's betting less than half pot each time.)
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Old 12-05-2005, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: How to extract $$$ with a set.

It has a lot to do with how much he actually has in front of him of course. Whether he has 3k or 10 k makes a big difference as well as how much you have in front of you. Smooth call it all the way to the river if you have position (with this particular board). By the way, NOBODY is folding A-10 here. Ok, maybe Hellmuth, but thats it =)
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