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#1
09-13-2005, 12:12 AM
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Some Quick Preflop Questions
you're btn, 3rd hand at table, no reads.
how many limpers for each JTo 76s 45s K7s K2s A2s utg limps. he's really bad like a 70/5. you're next with 45s JTo 76s 55 which ones are you playing. and how much lower would you go ( ie T9o or 98o...) 2 limpers to you. they are very loose very bad. K6s K2s Q7s J8s 22 in sb folded to you. bb is a really good 30/20 player. if you decide to raise, he calls flop comes K 8 7 rainbow whats your line thanks. stealthcow- 
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#2
09-13-2005, 01:00 AM
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Re: Some Quick Preflop Questions
by no means am i a preflop master so take my answer with a grain of salt
assuming the limpers are decent, i wouldn't play any of them for any amounts of limpers. i would play 55 once again i would play none. i would raise 22, i would bet the flop. i play lag,30/22, at 5/10
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#3
09-13-2005, 01:08 AM
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Re: Some Quick Preflop Questions
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how many limpers for each JTo 76s 45s K7s K2s A2s [/ QUOTE ] I almost definitely play JTo and A2s regardless, and will raise with both if there is only one loose passive limper and otherwise call. With two limpers, I probably call with 76s and K7s. If everybody limps, I might call with 45s and K2s but I don't really have a standard play here. It just doesn't come up all that often. [ QUOTE ] utg limps. he's really bad like a 70/5. you're next with 45s JTo 76s 55 [/ QUOTE ] I probably limp along with 55 and fold the rest. With the right table conditions I might raise the 55. [ QUOTE ] 2 limpers to you. they are very loose very bad. K6s K2s Q7s J8s [/ QUOTE ] Assuming I am on the button and there isn't a maniac in the blinds, I probably overlimp all of these hands. [ QUOTE ] 22 in sb folded to you. bb is a really good 30/20 player. [/ QUOTE ] If he defends a lot in this situation (which almost all good 30/20 players do), I fold.
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#6
09-13-2005, 01:29 AM
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Re: Some Quick Preflop Questions
I play 10/20 and my VPIP/PFR numbers are about 28/19.
I guess I should have elaborated more about the 22 decision. There aren't that many players I think I would fold the 22 against, but I think there are some that will make things tough enough on me postflop that I would rather muck it.
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#7
09-13-2005, 01:33 AM
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Re: Some Quick Preflop Questions
how many limpers for each
JTo- 1 limper, sometimes raise 76s -2 45s- 2 K7s -1-2. On a sidenote I probably raise K9s and K8s K2s- dunno about this one...depends A2s -I RAISE after 1-2 limpers utg limps. he's really bad like a 70/5. you're next with Since Im assuming u are in MP... 45s -toss it JTo -toss, and its one of my favorite hands to 76s-toss. (also these 3 hands if u are in a really loose passive 6max game think about overlimping, but that seems to be a rare situation imo) 55-call. sometimes raise. which ones are you playing. and how much lower would you go ( ie T9o or 98o...) To lazy to answer this, but Mbenhoes newest chart should help u out w/ this 2 limpers to you. they are very loose very bad. K6s-call K2s-not sure Q7s-call J8s-call 22 in sb folded to you. bb is a really good 30/20 player. -Raise and play pokah. Sometimes complete. Sometimes fold if you decide to raise, he calls flop comes K 8 7 rainbow whats your line -Bet and play pokah
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#8
09-13-2005, 01:50 AM
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Re: Some Quick Preflop Questions
Heres my view of 22, and there are a couple of them...but here is what I have to say.
Scenario 1: You have 22 in the sb, ppl are folding to you, you are like [censored] [censored], someone raise my mother-[censored] blind or limp so I dont have to raise here...because I dont know what to do w/ this hand and hot damn, this BB has some sweet #s and could really [censored] my [censored] up by punishing me like a mother-[censored] postflop. [censored], I feel lost. Outcome for Scenario 1: sometimes fold, sometimes complete...no like playing pokah. Scenario 2:Its folding around to u, u have 22 in the sb, u could go either way here as it comes around, but every one folds...folding while not bad, feels a little diiiiiirty. U like to play the pokah. So u notice BB has some sweet numbers, u also know he's apt to defend his blind, u also know what the hell u are doing postflop and in a sense of competition, you raise his bitch ass. U know he can punish u postflop, but u know how to read hands and ditch if the situation neccesitates. So you raise your sweet #ed friend and u know if he calls this game of postflop, against this dude, is sometimes about more than the cards. You know this, he knows this, so.... Outcome of Scenario 2: You know what you are doing postflop, folding feels diiiiirty (but not a huge problem) so u dont want to fold, and u dont exactly want to complete (not terrible but Id rather raise this guy), so u raise. 60 percent of the time u take it. 40 percent u play the pokah. And you relish it. Good day, gentlemen.
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#9
09-13-2005, 02:18 AM
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Re: Some Quick Preflop Questions
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how many limpers for each JTo- 1 limper, sometimes raise 76s -2 45s- 2 K7s -1-2. On a sidenote I probably raise K9s and K8s K2s- dunno about this one...depends A2s -I RAISE after 1-2 limpers utg limps. he's really bad like a 70/5. you're next with Since Im assuming u are in MP... 45s -toss it JTo -toss, and its one of my favorite hands to 76s-toss. (also these 3 hands if u are in a really loose passive 6max game think about overlimping, but that seems to be a rare situation imo) 55-call. sometimes raise. which ones are you playing. and how much lower would you go ( ie T9o or 98o...) To lazy to answer this, but Mbenhoes newest chart should help u out w/ this 2 limpers to you. they are very loose very bad. K6s-call K2s-not sure Q7s-call J8s-call 22 in sb folded to you. bb is a really good 30/20 player. -Raise and play pokah. Sometimes complete. Sometimes fold [/ QUOTE ] These are pretty much my exact actions. And I am a self admitted skirt I am folding 22 in the SB. I might win 50% of the hands but if I am behind I lose more and Iam never sure if I am behind or in front. Never any confidence in driving the pot. Your chances of stealing from this player preflop from this postion is like nill. A man gots to Know his limitations and this is one of mine, a marginal hand from the SB I am clueless.
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